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Everything posted by notin
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He does credit some talking head for that, so it was not his concoction. But he used it enough...
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And you seem to ignore that the way baseball gets talked about on here is not unique to this site. Go to any Sox forum on the internet, and there will be some people talking about metrics, etc. Also people talking about farm system and prospects. And absolutely some Old School stat folk. There simply is not one common set of beliefs any more. For the past 30 years, I have been a loyal subscriber to Baseball Digest, which is definitely old school stuff. But I enjoy it. But I know there are dozens if not hundreds of other publications that delve deeper in to the math and the metrics. While that stuff is all good, true and (presumably) accurate, I don't read them as often. Because Baseball Digest is simply more fun to read...
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Yeah you never say Sale was going to be healthy and effective in that post...
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No one is saying it was a good trade. My only point is that it made sense at the time. It is truly amazing to me how many people thought it was painfully obvious Sale was going to bounce back to 2018 levels and therefor this trade made no sense. Despite that many of these people also blasted Bloom for not dealing Sale at the end of 2021 when some unnamed team (probably Atlanta) was willing to take the whole contract but give the Sox no prospects in return...
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Yeah but you never made it. I know you will pay yourself on the back until your arm breaks, but you blatantly said you were happy to see Sale go and only wished it had been done cheaper…
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Post 333 was you complaining about other posters’ commentaries. You hint that they call you a hypocrite if you said Sale was healthy, but that comment itself is not in that post. Hey, show me where you said it. Of course that would only further discredit you since you clearly stated you didn’t mind seeing Sale go. The argument “I’m happy to see Sake go because he’s going to bounce back” didn’t feel very fan like…
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1. Nice statistical crafting, making sure we count Sale’s 2019 in there. That way we can ignore that Glasgow’s 272 IP from 2020 to 2023 was nearly double Sale’s total over that period. 2. So do you now think past injuries are completely unrelated to future injuries? This isn’t a coin flip, where 10 heads in a row means nothing towards the outcome of the 11th flip. Plenty of pitchers are having good years despite injury-plagued pasts. But after this season, should the Sox sign Luis Severino for 4-5 years? Or Max Fried for 7-10? Are you that confident with your 2 pitcher sample size that past injuries are potentially irrelevant?
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True he snuck the Bogaerts thing in. And you ignored everything else. You keep insisting it was one bad season. But in the set of 93, 93, 108, and 84, which number is the outlier? The Sox did drop 24 games in the standings, which is a fact. But it also coincided with the vast improvements made in 2018 and 2019 with the other teams in the division.
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“When he pitched” is not a qualifier; it’s the point. Ignoring that Sale rarely pitched and considering one 40 inning stretch (that followed missing 8 weeks) is like saying “if you ignore the iceberg, the Titanic was a success!” Also, 40 innings at the end of an off-and-on 5 year stretch is proof he’s back? Do Grissom and Giolito get 40 AB/IP to “dazzle” as well?
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I think Henry looked at more than just W-L records. The Sox were falling in the standings, had the largest payroll in MLB history, had $300mill tied up in 3 oft-injured pitchers, had little time left on the deals for Betts and Bogaerts. Do you really think “one bad season” encompasses that? And I probably left out other factors and don’t know about even more…
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Post 15 of this thread, Old Red said “ I’m definitely not sad to see Sale get traded, but I don’t like paying $17M to do it.” So now your story is you thought he was not only going to be healthy, but also to bounce back. Yet you still were not sad to see him go. I suppose it’s nice to see you attributing your made up quotes to yourself now instead of making up quotes and attributing them to others…
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He had 4 years to do that here. Why couldn’t he? If Sale had shown anything since 2018, don’t you think he’d still be here?
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Ok. That settles it. ..
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That’s why I thought you meant Valdez. Not drafted, but like Wong, Abreu, Hamilton, etc. he spent time in the Sox minors
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Both teams had the same record (43-37) at the 80 game point. But with this team, that record is a pleasant surprise, while in 2019 it was an abject disappointment…
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Needed more fWAR from their assassin role…
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I doubt they trade Vlad. Now that other legacy infielder whose name rhymes with a famous Star Wars bounty hunter? I could see him getting moved…
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I’m sticking with my little wishlist of Tyler Anderson for the mound and Paul DeJong as a RHH glove at shortstop…
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Oh.
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He was locked up. You cannot stop Kung Fu Panda; you can only hope to contain him. Which is usually done by pointing him towards the closest buffet. That can contain him for hours…
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The Sox have Hendriks rehabbing shortly, and he will basically be a free deadline add. Why do we need a backup catcher?
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Me. Senga is hurt and hasn’t pitched yet in 2024. McNeil is another lefty hitting 2b, where the Sox need a RHH bat, preferably at shortstop…
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All the rage in 2016…
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Yes. I’m not proud of it…
