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But then Russell got 40 and Odubel Herrera got “indefinite” which later came to mean 85 games...

And Ryan Weber lives another day...

If we assume the Sox pay the rest of the way up to $60mill, Pollock (plus $9mill) works. Sox save about $16mill AAV and get a good, but oft-injured, player back. If LA is interested, so should Bloom be. Herrera would take an addition $40mill, giving the Sox an AAV reduction of about $11mill, barly better than just paying the money. The Phillies would very likely take (alot) less just to be rid of Herrera, but for those same reasons, maybe the Sox should think twice here. A straight up swap for Upton only saved about $10mill, same neighborhood as the suggested $60mill cash payout. But if Upton is on his game, it might be worth it. Although replacing Price might cut into the savings a bit and make the actual reset tough. Belt is flat out not worth it. His $14,6 mil AAV salary plus the additional $26mill ($8.7mill per year) is worse than just paying Price to go away...

He's done NOTHING SO FAR!! Less than Jose Peraza! So disappointing!!

Everything hinges on a Price trade (or non-trade). A few of us have toyed around with the simulator to find the best deal for Price, but a lot of times we’ve tried seeing what bad contracts come back. The thing is, the Sox are better off just paying Price to pitch elsewhere, since every $3mill they pay another team counts as only $1mi towards the 2020 luxury tax calculation (with the remaining counting against it in 2021 and 2022). MLBTR writers have said the Sox might need to pay as much as $60 mill to unload Price, or $20 mill per season. If this is correct, and I am going to assume it is since no General Managers are returning my calls, the only contracts they should even consider taking back are Wil Myers and Rougned Odor, as their AAV’s are much lower than actual money owed. Of the two, I would greatly prefer Odor, since he is owed less,has a much lower AAV, plays 2b, has serious power (30+ home runs in 3 of the last 4 seasons) and is a lot younger. Price plus $21mill for Odor ($8.25mill AAV, owed $37.5 mill over 3 years) does come close to the $60 mill payout and still saves the Sox about $16 mill towards the tax, which is more than just paying a team $60 mill would save...

White Sox give OF Luis Robert a 6 year $50mill extension prior to his first MLB at bat, similar to the path they chose with Eloy Jimenez. If Robert is as successful out of the gate as Jimenez, the White Sox are looking that much tougher in a less competitive AL Central...

... thus answering one question this off-season. A good move by Bloom, but certainly not a needle mover. So who gets the DFA? My first thought is Ryan Weber, with Sam Travis as the DFA understudy ...

It’s a pathetic move to save money and nothing else. So now suddenly, after who knows how long, Ellsbury’s medical treatments are an issue? This is almost as bad as when Steinbrenner didn’t like the new CBA and threatened to cut the dental plan for office personnel, you know, the ones whose combined salary is less than a utility infielder...

So a 37 year old $17mill 1 fWAR possible cheater is the guy you think is the better option?

Then we have to replace Price or Eovaldi, right? Plus risk JD Martinez opting out and sticking the Sox with a $5.25mill adjustment. And Martinez absolutely is opting out after 2020; his contract was written to make him opt out. That $8mill savings on Price/Eovaldi disappears faster than a brother-in-law after borrowing money....

I'd think so, but it is really hard to envision them resetting without dealing Mookie. Unless they do something even stupider, like dealing Bogaerts or Sale...

Also Rickey Henderson in 1993. And probably a lot in between who were less famous...

It's the Year of Amy Robach! Anchoring 20/20 in the year 2020!

Agreed. Plus it only involves typing two letters....

Keeping Betts is better than adding anyone, but it does likely scrap any reset plans since moving Price is clearly difficult and moving the bulk of his contract next to impossible...

Wow. You’re already claiming victory not only in 2020, but also 2021 and 2022??!?! Are you even remotely aware how these marquee moves have turned out in the past? Remember losing the closest World Series ever and adding Mike Mussina? No title. Then Giambi. No title. Then A-ARod. Most humiliating postseason loss in MLB history. Then Randy Johnson. Etc. You might want to reel in those expectations before typing your response about how “different” 2020 will be...

But what happens if the Sox sign JD to a whole brand new contract before he has a chance to decline that option (which he will decline)?

Jeurys Familia did it last year...

So... Mike Shawaryn and Jarren Duran?

Assuming equal pay, I’d take Price. I might regret that in year three, but I am confident about the first two...

Closest example I can think of was Bernie Williams nearly signing with Boston. Unless you want t count Andy Pettitte signing with Houston...

The big dilemma is - if the Sox trade Price, it will likely involve paying lots of cash and getting nothing back. Resetting is possible, maybe even probable,but not guaranteed. Can the Sox trade Price, replace Price, reset, keep Mookie, and still be competitive in 2020?

Price in his limited innings was still worth more fWAR than Roark. Although it is possible the Sox add a reliever or two and use the opener strategy. That “reliever” might be a buy low starter, like Buchholz or Shelby Miller or Alex Wood who comes in and pitches innings 3-6 after 2 by, say, Darwinzon Hernandez...

For some reason I thought he was a free agent. Either way, don’t really want him..

Eric Hosmer