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Everything posted by notin
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17 full seasons. Plus his first year when he took overmidway. I looked it up finally.
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And we know why they are clearly curbing spending - the goal is a reset. If they can extend Betts, a reset in the near future is NOT very likely. Here’s what I don’t get. A lot of fans want the Sox to hold Betts for “one last shot” at a World Series. But if you think the team is good enough to win it all with Betts, why do these same people think that if Betts gets traded, the Sox need to blow this team up and start over? 5GoldGloves even suggested that the Sox should trade Devers in a full scale rebuild. Huh? Devers, who is 22 with 4 years of control left, is a player you rebuild around...
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But in a quarter of a century. Dave Roberts could equal him in World Series losses this year, his sixth season...
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By the way, if they extend Betts, how are they supposed to reset in 2021?
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Given how Bloom and the Sox have moved this postseason, it’s looking like a mandate. And per multiple sources, failing to get below the limit this year costs Henry about $100 mill all told. The tax itself is nothing; the Sox paid more to Rusney Castillo than they did in luxury tax last year. But there are apparently lots of other penalties for repeated high spending...
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It is funny how Earl Weaver has become the most quotable manager in baseball history on what it takes to build a winning team, but he only managed one World Series winning team himself, the same number as Alex Cora...
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First of all, aren’t there draft implications in exceeding the tax multiple seasons? And free agent compensation implications? And other effects? Second, John Henry wants the team to reset. That makes it the first step in the process...
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Not really. The Angels have had some good teams, but have had a devastating and bizarre multi season run of pitching injuries. Really their one big mistake was their inexplicable addiction to Mike Scioscia...
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It does mean there’s a good chance. And if you think it’s likely, what’s better for the Sox team? One last season of Mookie or whatever players he is worth in a trade? And if you think you can re-sign him, isn’t resetting this year the first step in that process?
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True. But how good has Trout made the Angels? The guy is labeled one of the greatest players of all time with career fWAR better than several Hall of Famers already, and he is only 28 years old. But 1 postseason series. 3 games. 6 years ago. Ever watched the Angels and thought “this team should just trade Trout for a HAUL and put a good team in the field for once?” I know I have. It’s easy to say stuff like that about a team I don’t care about...
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Betts is the Sox best player, but trading isn’t necessarily a white flag. The Sox did not get equal value for Nomar and won the World Series that year. They didn’t even come close to getting anything worthwhile for AGon, but won the next year anyway. Price might be tougher to replace than Betts, at least for 2020.
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I don’t think unloading Betts means the season is over. Either the Sox get back significant, helpful piece(s) or they also dump Price, which frees up enough cash to still add to this team while still resetting...
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Because it’s still a good team lead by CHRIS FREAKIN’ SALE
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He still mentions Gonsolin. And if this deal enables the Sox to extend Devers, will it have any merit?
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????? Tomase mentions Gonsolin, Ruiz, May, Jeter Downs and Josiah Gray and mentions the Sox could get two of them. The only names he takes out of the equation are Lux and Verdugo. Ruiz was a BA top 20 prospect last year. May was also ranked (BA #82). Gonsolin pitched well in MLB. Gray and Downs had terrific seasons and both would easily crack the top 4 on the Sox prospect rankings. And Downs/Gray might be the WORST option here. If the Sox got Gonsolin and Ruiz for Price and Betts, that’s a good haul...
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Actually the correct answer was “If they trade both Price and Betts, why would they still trade Bradley?”
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So if the Sox trade Betts and Price, and then deal Bradley in another trade, how long will it take for the first article about the Sox trading away all their black players and who writes it?
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Steady contributions from the West Coast? Or not...,
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And that’s the only reason to take the oft-injured Pollock. But that also depends how generous LA gets.
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No one really wants Joc Pederson. Except maybe Mrs. Pederson. Maybe. The only reason to include him is to offset some cash. And he is cheaper than Pollock
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To me, Pederson vs Pollock depends on how much the latter sweetens the pot. Personally, I’m on board with dealing Price plus $21 mill to Texas for Rougned Odor and keeping Betts in RF...
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Double sarcasm?
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I don’t think Bloom should even be thinking about Seager in any Betts trade. If Betts had more than a year of control or the Sox were willing to pay some salary, they’d get a better package. But one year of a rental player really isn’t worth that level of prospect package to any team. Manny Machado was a superstar talent when LA acquired him and he didn’t come close to getting 3 top 50 prospects. (They did get one good prospect.). And while they only acquired him for half a season, he was also making much, much less than $30mill. Of course some of the rumors have the Sox dealing both Price and Betts, in which case the return for Betts will be even less...
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I didn’t know not signing any free agents by January 3rd was punting a season. Dopey me. I did think trading Lester and Lackey that July was a better example...
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The White Sox DFAd long time Notin favorite Tayron Guerrero. Make your move, Bloom...
