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I suggested a trade once with the framework of Herrera and Dave Robertson for Price. The Sox get a CF and good RP coming off an injury-plagued season and save $17mill in AAV with potential to reach $28mill in AAV once they deal Bradley. If they deal Bradley and Price for the same pair, it happens all at once. But Philly winds up taking on in excess of $80mill and might not be so accommodating...

I’m sure it was all factors in his hiring and firing. Ironically, my original post on the subject way back when never said he was fired due to heavy spending, just that the “heavy spending GM was fired” and replaced by the thrifty guy. To me, the biggest irony in all of this is you believe these sportswriters when they tell you why DD was fired but not when they tell you the team has budget issues and has to react to them. This is really weird because that they have budget issues should surprise no one...

If you read the article, Bloom had nothing to do with any of it. That’s just a proposal some sportswriters threw around, one of them being former Rockies’ GM Dan O ‘Dowd. There are other links below with other proposals, but as far as anyone know, neither Bloom nor Friedman have discussed those deals...

You sure do speak for the Dodgers a lot...

You have got to learn how to post links to the completed trade page and not the blank simulator..,

None of that means Henry was fine with his overspending. In fact, all of that happened prio to the 2019 February announcement that DD would get extended. In fact, most of that happened before Henry announced on the field DD would get an extension. However, since February, DD did extend Sale and Bogaerts. Those contracts, on top of numerous others, appear to have been a factor. Of course, like many, I think that Henry and Co. might have tolerated all of that if they kept winning...

Other than Cherington, what front office people did Dombrowski drive away? But really, no doubt DD was an a-hole. But Henry knew that when he hired him from their time together in Florida. I believe as long as those pennants were hanging, DD was safe. But once they stopped, DD was in trouble, and the mess everyone knew was coming when they hired him got here too fast. But if the Sox won the AL East in 2019, no way would DD have been fired. His management style was clearly acceptable when they were winning...

There were also plenty of reasons to believe Henry was upset about the payroll, such as: 1. Not letting Dombrowski add any salary at the trade deadline last year. 2. The clear and obvious plan to reset and get under the tax limit 3. The hiring of a new team architect who constructed a postseason team with a payroll among the lowest in the league

Do you have a link to this article? Most of the articles I saw on the subject related Dombrowski’s dismissal to his continued pursuit of a contract extension. Henry himself said Dombrowski deserved one immediately after the World Series on the field, and reiterated it again in spring training. No one seemed upset at his management style then...

Teheran to Angels Gio Gonzalez to White Sox

That action boldly states Henry did not like spending without winning. That he hired “after the fact” is immaterial. He wasn’t going to hire anyone before firing DD...

If Henry so much despised Dombrowski’s style, it does make you wonder why he hired him. He did employ him previously and knew him quite well. If you want actual facts, Dombrowski spent a lot of money and stopped winning, and left this team in a bad position going forward. If Henry didn’t mind the spending, he could have easily replaced Dombrowski with another heavy slender and continued the same path. He didn’t. It is weird how you prefer external sources like Russo and Gammons but disregard internal ones like Henry and Kennedy, even when their actions support their words...

You’re right!! Bloom has had the job almost 2 months now and has no rings!!! Time to abandon ship!!! He might get fired one day. Or he might not although people will rationalize being was. But only two people acting as GM for the Sox have actually been fired in the Henry era - Dan Duquette and Dave Dombrowski...

Right. We should have more reasonable demands - like a parade every 4 years....

I never even remotely made that suggestion. In fact, by that logic, Dombrowski made 0 good moves. If you’re expecting Bloom is not doing his job or doesn’t know how to because he has failed to add players of the Manny/Irtiz caliber, your insane expectations are not going to be met. Whether you choose to believe it or not, the team has reached a budget limit. Just because you don’t have the confirmation you want on this doesn’t mean you get to just go into denial and whine about. The fact is, the heavy-spending GM was fired and the trade/bargain/low budget GM was brought in. He won’t meet your standard for good moves as those involve big names and big contracts, but history has shown he knows how to do his job and the fact that some fans do not believe in the existence of the limitations he clearly has in place doesn’t change this or matter...

Is that the standard? “Good move” = future Hall of Famer? And stop pretending you were rejoicing when the Sox acquired Ortiz. Had you ever even heard of him before 2003?

Maybe I was not specific enough. None of those trades involve dealing an established star for prospects. Maybe an argument can be made for the Beckett deal...

And let’s not forget if we’re speaking for the Dodgers, Pollock was at minimum Plan B. They only signed him after missing out on Harper...

I don’t know if either side wants Pollock or how badly, but his contract is likely not the issue. His AAV is substantially lower than Price’s. If you’re the Sox GM, is it better to pay Price $45-50mill to play elsewhere or take back a contract in that range that could fill a position of need?

Bloom turned Tampa into a successful team by trading for players like Glasnow and Zunino and signing García - players with good prospect pedigrees but little to no success in MLB, and also by implementing a new strategy for the rotation. He was likely brought in to find those type of hidden gems again and achieve some success to improve on that 85 win season. The foundation of this team isn’t bad at all, and while they had some injuries to the staff, those also might be surmountable. Maybe Eovaldi does go to the pen? Really it was his bullpen work that was his biggest success in Boston. Perez as well. Perez clearly fell apart due to overwork in Minnesota, but he is a former top prospect with a top tier cut fastball. Maybe the plan is to use someone (Darwinzon Hernandez?) as a two inning opener than follow up with Perez for 4 or 5 innings? I don’t expect much for Price beyond salary relief. But if the Sox are painted into a “trade Mookie” corner, I prefer MLB talent coming back because most top prospects don’t become top Major Leaguers, and it’s tough to think of very many “star for prospects” trades that really did return a ton of MLB talent even in the long run. Bartolo Colon for Sizemore and Phillips might be the exception and not the rule, and even that deal was so long ago, all the “prospects” have retired. If you want to count Archer for Glasnow and Meadows, well what GM made that deal? Jose Peraza doesn’t look like a great addition, but for all the positions he has played, the one he did field well was 2b. This actually does mean the Sox have some trade bait - as Chavis might be that much more expendable, along with Dalbec, who is definitely blocked at his best position. Either way, the Sox don’t need both and might not need either, although it is possible one or both move to the outfield.

29 or 30 isn’t a huge difference. We do have multiple relievers capable of being mediocre. Having a few capable of being better than that would be nice, but it’s not going to be possible until the Sox clear a lot of money...

If the Sox took back Pollock, it would be slightly more than half. But I think the goal is to take back as little money as possible...

But how many are 30 or older and still here?

I’d prefer the imminent deal involve Price...

The Strawman Approach. How do you know those aren’t good moves?