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Anderson was ranked 17th on soxprospects.com with a score of 2-5. Career Notes: Worked out of the bullpen in college as part of incredibly deep Florida staff, serving as the closer his junior season, before transitioning to a starter as a professional. Would likely have started for most other collegiate programs. Participated in 2016 Fall Instructional League. Summation: Tall right-hander has a four-pitch mix, solid pitcher’s frame and clean mechanics. Could move quickly in a bullpen role, but will be stretched out and developed as a starter. Lacks a true plus offering, but could have several average-to-better offerings. Strong command profile and pitchability. Ceiling of a back-end starter who relies on mixing pitches and being around the zone because of lack of true out pitch. Santos was not ranked in the top 60 prospects.

-12.9 UZR/150 at 3B career. -8 DRS. Just over 1800 innings at 3B. He's worse at 2B (-30.2 UZR/150 in 145 innings. He's played a little corner OF (322 innings +18.2 UZR/150). Has played the most at SS (2058 innings -17.8 UZR1/50) I think Pedro is wrong on EN.

Probably Marrero goes down. Who goes off the 40 man?

You mean Rubby is not an ace?

Wrong vibe.

Double yup.

Looks like Price has been "dealing with the media" in his own way. It's just not the way many want him to do it. Maybe it will light a fire under him. Maybe it will adversely affect his pitching. Maybe it has no affect.

We have some top non pitching players in MLB. We're not doing too well right now, but I am far from panic mode. Top WAR players from 2016-2017 (700+ PAs): 1. Trout 13.2 2. Betts 12.2 3. Altuve 12.2 4. Bryant 11.7 5. Seager 11.4 27. Bogaerts 7.3 29. Pedroia 7.2 31. J. B. Jr. 6.7 Having 4 of the top 31 WAR players, a starting rotation like ours and the bestc loser in MLB should be enough to get us into the playoffs and more. Want to upgrade the offense in a big way? Here's a list of the top WAR players from 2016-2017 on teams that are out of it or maybe will be out of it by the end of August's waiver wire trade period: (Note: I'm not saying all of these players are or will be available.) 1B 9.0 F Freeman 8.5 J Votto 6.0 B Belt 5.4 Miggy 4.6 M Carpenter 4.6 Wil Myers 3.5 J Abreu 3.4 C Davis 3.1 J Bour 2.9 J Smoak 2.8 Freese (2.1 HRam) 1.8 M Adams 1.7 Y Alonso (0.7 Moreland) DH 5.9 N Cruz 5.9 E Inciarte (OF) 5.9 O Herrera (OF) 5.5 M Ozuna (OF) 4.7 A Duval (OF) 4.6 B Hamilton (OF) 4.4 G Stanton (OF) 4.4 R Braun (OF) 4.4 K Calhoun (OF) 4.3 M Conforto (OF) 4.1 S MArte (OF) 4.5 J Upton (OF) 3.8 K Davis 3.5 McCutchen (OF) 3.5 Y Cespedes (OF) 2.9 A Garcia 2.1 M Trumbo 3B (to DH/1B or eventually move Devers to 1B) 8.9 Donaldson 8.5 Machado 7.6 Beltre 7.5 Seager 4.2 Gyorko 3.9 Y Solarte 3.8 E Nunez 3.7 F Suarez 3.0 Prado 2.9 Freese 2.6 Castellanos 2.4 Y Escobar 2.4 R Schimpf

I never said that. I just don't expect failure due to any scattered tiny sample size. I think he'll be fine, if I had to guess. I see him as our #2 starter behind Sale. I'm not easily swayed by a players most recent sample size or scattered samples from years past.

I'm not sure why counting a player's first year or two against him is logical (see JBJ and Bogey's career numbers). Most players improve on their numbers after year 2. They continue improving until they reach prime. I think it was fair to expect slight improvement from Bogey & JBJ. It's hard to expect improvement from a year like Betts, but his age curve could have suggested one. I did not expect Leon to improve, but I expected Vaz to get better and the loss of Hanigan and Holaday's putrid offense would make us about even at catcher from 2016 to 2017. Beni had a small sample size last year, so using his .835 number as a mark to improve from might be too much to expect. HanRam & Pedey are still in prime. I didn't expect an improvement from 2016 or 2015-2016 combined, but expecting about the same was not really wishful thinking. I would agree that their decline should not be called "under performing"--same with Leon. Overall, even minus Papi's 2016 numbers from the 2016 totals, we've seen a pretty significant decline. Maybe "massive" was hyperbole, but to me, we've clearly under performed as a whole.

I'm not looking to move him. I was responding to the idea of getting a SS, moving Bogey to 3B and Devers to 1B. I don't see that happening. Bogey would demand a trade rather than move to 3B. Devers should stay at 3B for a few years anyways. 1Bmen are easier to acquire than any other position in MLB. When I spoke of my dream, I am talking about wanting a great fielding SS. I have always valued superb SS defense more than most people. I am not a fan of Bogey's SS defense, but his offense makes up for his shortcomings on defense. I'm fine with keeping him at SS at least until his contract runs out.

I'd prefer trading for a longer term solution, but the cost would be way more. I am a "cliff dweller", but we did what we did, and the only justification for trading a large chunk of our future away was to get a ring in this 3-4 year window. I like Travis, and he could be a cheap option for us at 1B for years to come, but I doubt he ever develops into a plus at 1B. 1B is a highly competitive position full of big power hitters.

Can we get Alonso without giving up Devers or Groome? Would Travis, Lakins and Beeks be enough? Is it too much for a rental?

Thanks. I went back and edited. Clearly, we are seeing massive under performing by our hitters. Even Mitch Moreland is on his way towards having a worse season this year, if his prolonged slump continues.

It's the only sample available. That doesn't make it valid. How about these guys in short playoff sample sizes? Pom 4.91 ERA/1.64 WHIP Porcello 5.66/1.39 I'll believe Price is a good playoff pitcher when he actually does something in the playoffs, not before. To each his own.

Funny, on another site I mentioned "anyone but Bobby V".

It doesn't.

I do think Devers ends up at 1B- maybe as soon as next year. It just will not and should not happen this year. I do think Bogey might be better suited at 3B, but he will not want that and may demand a trade. It's a tricky situation going forward.

I'm at the point where I feel anyone but Bobby V would be better than JF right now.

Small sample size. We won't win without Price.

If I were HRam, I'd be snapping at posters on this site. THe guy has been one of our hottest hitters, and I keep seeing post after post about him not hitting, him needing to be platooned or benched, and him needing to change an approach that has done him well his whole career. Team OPS over the last 28 days: .693 .936 Pedey .881 Betts .880 HRam .723 JBJ .710 Marrero .705 Beni (The rest are below the team OPS) Team OPS over last 14 days: .565 .911 Pedey .772 Betts .731 HRam .607 Young I understand that Bogey's sudden illness forced Beni into the line-up vs a lefty, but he should not start another game vs a lefty, until he shows he can lay off the outside and low breaking balls. 1) Bring Tavis back up, so he can platoon with Moreland, and Young can platoon with Beni. 2) Send Marrero down or trade Holt. 3) Shake up the line-up- NOW! I suggest: vs RHP/Vs LHP 1) Bogey/Young 2) Pedey 3) JBJ 4) Betts 5) HRam 6) Beni/ Bogey 7) Devers/Travis 8) Moreland/ Holt or Marrero 9) Leon/Vaz 4) Consider a managerial change. 5) Look for a power hitting 1Bman via trade (Alonso?) 6) Some player take the lead and call a team meeting and try to get some fire from off the field to a fire on the field.

With all due respect. I doubt we make it out of the first round without Price.

I still say this team has no fire. We struggle with the fundamentals (most recently, see HRam's throw home last night). They'll never do it this season, but I think maybe a manager change might shake things up some.

I doubt that would happen mid season. Plus, it would involve moving Devers to 1B with no experience there. Someday, maybe. Maybe it's just a dream I keep having.

Judge for yourself... 2016>2017 OPS Leon .845 > .659 HRam .866 >.786 Pedey .825 >.797 Bogey .802 >.773 Beni .835 >.760 J B Jr. .835 >.793 Betts .897 > .832 Young .850 >.712 BHolt .705 >.479 Vaz .585 Only one player is having better season this year than last: Vaz. Many of the players having worse seasons were on the upside of the age curve. Only HRam and Young are close to the down side.