moonslav59

Is there any evidence on twitch reflexes and age?

Choose $300M/12 or less as your vote.

Cast your vote.

I'd go $400M/12 to,lower the AVV.

Now that some numbers have been rumored, how much is the most you'd pay Mookie?

I've always thought we overpaid for this platoon 1Bman, but this seems about right. No need for Myers, now.

It's like Yogi said, "Nobody goes there anymore- it's too crowded."

So offer him $420M for 100 years and it's just $4.2M on the lux tax! LOL

It's his ask not his settle on number. I doubt anyone offers close to that, so no need for good byes just yet. I'd counter with $33M x 10 or and maybe $31M x 12. If he says no, trade him, now, re-set the tax, and then offer $34M x 10 or $32M x 12, assuming he has a great 2020 and is healthy. If someone pays more, then say "adios." I might go to $350M/10 or $380M x 12, but it's probably way too much.

True, and I feel less sure about him opting out now as I did a few months ago. My thinking is that after another good year, which I expect, he will seek a 4-5 year deal worth less than $19M a year but with more total value than $38M. I hope we can find a way to keep him beyond 2020, but unless we reset, I can't see us re-signing him, if he opts out. If he stays- he stays. 2 more years should still be worth it, for us, but if we have to reset in 2021, it's kind of pointless.

JBJ is my favorite player, but his contract is a drag. There are other equally great defensive CF'ers out there at a fraction of the cost.

So is the argument to "go for it" after everybody is already signed elsewhere. It was meant to be convoluted.

If he has the year he needs to have for us to win it all, like many here think we should shoot for, he'll opt out.

Maybe. Apparently he's still worth +6 on the trade value site, so they see him as worth more than he's owed.

Who IS going to give Betts crazy money? I'm thinking we can outbid anyone not "crazy."

IMO, the only way he doesn't opt out is if he gets hurt or decline sharply. If that happens, we may have wished we traded him before July.

Look again at my proposed "fire sale." JBJ, Price, Eovaldi and Workman are not "brand favorites." We are talking about Betts and JD. Both will be FAs after this year. Are fans that dumb, they can't see the benefit of trading them before we lose them anyways? Plus, we can bring both back next winter.

The actual money owed to Myers is not far from Price's deal. He's owed $68.5M over the next 3 years counting bonuses. If you subtract that from Price's $96M, it's $37.5M or about $12M a year more for Price. We can pay down some of that, as I suggested, and the benefit to us is that the LUX cost is just $13.8M a year. Assume we pay $3M a year. SD pays $9M a year for Price. We save $14M a year on the tax budget.

Not trading Betts may accelerate the decline beyond 2020.

Even without Mookie, the team is more fun to watch than many other past Sox teams I watched everyday.

This deal make so much sense, I'm not sure why it hasn't happened. Maybe SD has no faith at all in Price. I'd even add Workman to the deal, if they gave us a prospect not worth Workman's value- like Hunt.

Just because the Orioles suck so much, we can't be a last place team doesn't mean the situations are not similar. If we are 10 back in July, we will at least explore trading several players that will be FAs or opt out after 2021 and maybe even 2022.

It was by far the second highest offer on the table. It's a shame they changed their policy for Price, but at the time, Price looked as good as any FA pitcher in a decade.

Assuming injuries and age take their toll have nothing to do with professionalism of our players. We have some studs- no doubt, and that's what makes it hard to give up on 2020. You can't get much better than Betts, Devers, Bogey, JD and a healthy Sale, but this team has precious little else, except wings and prayers or rebounds, miracle recoveries and more. Look at the 40 man roster. I've not seen a more shallower roster since last century. We have 20+ players that are not expected to be much help in 2020. Sure, some will and some will surprise, but some we expect to contribute may decline as well. 40 Man Roster 2020 Only 8 pretty sure bets (maybe 7, if not counting Sale): Betts Devers Bogey ERod JD Sale (a big question mark) Workman Beni 12 Not Sure to be very productive Price Eovaldi Barnes Vaz JBJ Walden Taylor Perez Peraza D Hernandez Chavis Plawecki That's only 20 players total!!! 4 Future Help, at best Dalbec Chatham M Wilson Y Abar Maybe we get 20-21 total. That's half the 40 man roster! 16 Could DFA or trade for scraps (or injured) and I wouldn't blink an eye Hembree Pedey Velazquez Lin Brasier Brewer Reyes Weber Shawaryn Osich K Hart J Arauz (rule 5) C Mazza A Brice J Springs M Hall

No way we trade Devers or Bogey. They are the foundation we will rebuild around.