moonslav59
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We don't really know what offers are on the table or being negotiated. There may already be a good deal agreed upon, but Bloom is trying for better. It's too early to know. I am beginning to lose my faith that a deal will be done. I thought, for sure, he at least had someone wanting JBJ. Otherwise, why tender him? I'm still thinking the odds are better than 50% JBJ or someone(s) more valuable will be dealt by opening day.
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Springer signed a 2 year- $24M contract. Traditional big spenders have recently reset the tax. We have talked about it. Many recent big contracts have gone to teams not paying Lux Taxes.
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Exactly, and if someone goes way overboard and signs him away from us, we should have a lot of budget space to add several other high quality players, instead.
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They are deeper than even the guys we mentioned. Kershaw Buehler (112 value on Trade Values) Urias (34) Maeda (12) Wood Here's the ratings given by the Trade Values site on their pitching prospects and young depth: 62 May 19 Gonsolin 19 Stripling 18 Gray 8 Kolarek 7 Baez 5 Ferguson 3 White & Santana Sox values: 28 ERod 24 Barnes 12 Mata 11 D Hern 6 Taylor 6 Walden 5 Workman 5 Ward 4 Groome & Houck Gray would be out 3rd highest valued pitcher!
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The best case scenario, IMO, is to trade Betts, then re-sign him.
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Me, too, but why haven't these type deals even been rumored?
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That's why I'd approach this as a Betts + Eovaldi offer. We might have to just settle on the best offer, but by adding some cash, we should get something very very worthwhile.
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The only reason Myers offered any attraction was the AVV vs actual cost differential in an exchange for Price or Eovaldi. It was never about what he does for us, but there was a sliver of hope he might give us something at 1B, which is better than just giving cash to offset Price's or Eovaldi's bloated deals. Myers for Betts is a joke, IMO. If they gave us Patino & Campusano with Myers, I might listen, but I'm not getting why we aren't insisting they take Price or Eovaldi with Betts. We could even add $6-9M. Myers is not giving us anywhere near a 4 WAR. H'es a straight salary dump player. Betts is not.
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The AVV is very important to the Sox but not the Padres. It's a huge part of why he interests the Sox- that and a need for a 1Bman and 4th OF'er.
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How do you make a plan to create healthy pitchers out of injury prone pitchers? If anybody had one, they'd make millions. Eventually, Bloom will have to settle on the best offers. Most likely, it will be in July, but I still think a Betts or JBJ trade before opening day can happen.
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If we don't make trades, a tailspin is nearly certain or at best, worse after 2020.
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They have 2 aces atop their rotation. They believe May can take the next step and be a #3. Stipling and Maeda are a reliable 4-5. I think they were interested in only 2 pitchers on the market, MadBum and Cole. Cole got way more money and MadBum said he wanted to go to Arizona from the outset. Urias (2.49 ERA in 80 IP), Wood (3.73 career ERA, but sucked last year) & Gonsolin (2.93 ERA in 40 IP)
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The Best Two-seamers and sinkers Starters, min. 250 thrown 89 pitchers 1) .247 -- Eduardo Rodriguez, Red Sox 2) .268 -- Aaron Civale, Guardians 3) .269 -- Brandon Woodruff, Brewers 4) .272 -- Julio Teheran, Angels 5) .273 -- Jack Flaherty, Cardinals
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I do think the Dodgers are willing to sacrifice a lot of the future to get Betts and make them the clear WS favorite, but we are talking about 5 years of team control for several players- some of which have already shown they can play at the ML level. There's a chance Verdugo wins Rookie of the Year. He, alone, could be all they need to get them over the hump. If you are waiting for a package even close to what you say Gammons suggested, it won't ever happen. We'll get nothing for Betts while winning 84-90 games, this year.
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It was an option. It's too late, now. Teams interested in JD have found other solutions. Maybe in July, some team will come calling.
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It's one year of Betts. Gammons is often wrong.
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Maybe that's why he's still here. He's not a salary dump. The guy is worth at least double his contract.
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The Dodgers have Buehler, Kershaw, Urias, Wood and Stripling. Eovaldi offers depth and is about as dependable as Maeda.
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Adding Eovaldi with Betts evens out the money for Pollock, who is out a job anyways after they get Betts. Pollock fills an OF slot we'll need after losing Betts, and eventually JBJ.
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Betts has one year. They'll need Verdugo after Betts bolts. If the plan is to sign Betts, they can just wait a year and trade Verdugo for a position of need.. Pollock is to balance Eovaldi not Betts, but he can play OF to fill JBJ or Betts's slot. (Sign Betts this winter and play Pollock in CF.) If the Dodgers trade for Betts without giving us Pederson or Pollock, they'll be overloaded in the OF for 2020 but short in 2021. Trading Verdugo is NOT happening. Dodger OF'ers: Bellinger Pollock Pederson Taylor Verdugo Betts makes 6 for 2020. They'd probably want us to take Pollock & Pederson for Betts & Eovaldi, but no way on Verdugo. I might rather have Gonsolin, Stripling and Gray than Gonsolin & Verdugo anyways.
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Yes, I recalled he was supposed to be a big offensive catcher. Cla had one great year in SD (50 IP/0.711 WHIP), but then had a 1.45 WHIP afterwards in 230 IP to end his ML career.
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Betts, Eovaldi & Workman for Pollock Maeda Gonsolin Gray Wong Beaty
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No way we get all 3. Maybe Gonsolin and Gray or Cartaya. We need to get LA to take Eovaldi or Price with Betts. Gives us back Pollock to even up the money a little plus some prospects.
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Negative value Players: Sox -55 Price -30 Eovaldi -25 Pedey -14 Castillo -11 Sale Some other teams: Padres -102 Hosmer -73 Machado -55 Myers Giants -40 Cueto -34 Posey -33 Longoria -18 Belt -14 Samardzija -14 Crawford Yanks -125 Stanton -28 Hicks -9 Happ -5 Cole -5 Britton -2 Tanaka -1 Gardener Cards -38 Goldschmidt -25 Fowler -19 Carpenter -13Molina -7 Cecil -6 Mikolas -4 Martinez -2 Miller Cubs -73 Heywood -21 Lester -21 Kimbrel -9 Chatwood -3 Descalso
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MLB Trade Values website assigns values to players and prospects based on their projected worth and contractual cost. It's certainly not a perfect set-up, but there are some interesting data points to look at. The Sox have just 8 players valued over 20. 127 Devers 91 Bogey 51 Betts 36 Beni 28 ERod 24 Barnes 23 Vaz 22 Casas (the only prospect) We only have 5 from 10-19.9 (all prospects of recently graduated): 19.7 Dalbec 17.7 Chavis 12.4 Mata 12.1 Duran 10.6 D Hern 2 over 90/ 3 over 50/8 over 20/ 13 over 10 Here's what a few other teams have: Braves (2 over 185!) 2 over 90/6 over 50/12 over 20/20 over 10 (9 are prospects) Jays (2 over 120) 2 over 90/ 3 over 50/ 7 over 20/ 14 over 10 Dodgers (2 over 112) 2 over 90/ 7 over 50/ 11 over 20/ 20 over 10 (7 prospects) Padres (1 over 120) 1 over 90/ 5 over 50/ 11 over 20/ 21 over 10 (10 prospects) Orioles (1 over 79) 0 over 90/ 1 over 50/ 4 over 20/ 8 over 10 Yankees (1 @ 120) 1 over 90/ 3 over 50/ 9 over 20/ 16 over 10 (3 prospects)
