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  1. I never said it was the exact same, and as always, you missed my obvious point. Like Hram, had Price had a great year, it still would have (or at least might have) been good for us, if he opted out. I get your point that technically, he'd be worth $32M a year had he been great, but it's still a valid position to think he'd regress with age and to hope he opts out. The fact that he did not have a great season makes the answer speculative, but certainly his following seasons and injuries don't hurt our position or help yours.
  2. I know what your point was, and many of us felt like even if Price had a great season before the opt out, his age and projected production would likely mean he would not earn the remainder of his salary and the money could be spent better elsewhere. It's not an absurd position, and despite the fact that he ended up not having a great season, those of us hoping he'd opt out were not wrong. BTW, I said the same about HRam. I said even if he hits .300 35 120, we should trade him. He actually had a decent second year, and we should have traded him. Of course, using your logic, I was wrong on that one,too. Let's face the only fact known only to you: you are never wrong.
  3. Doing your best, again, I see.
  4. I'd rather have a healthy Verdugo than any of the 3-4 guys I mentioned, but I'd be fine with getting an extra player. Verdugo + Gonsolin or Stripling = Ruiz, Gonsoli & Stripling
  5. LOL.It was reasonable, at the time, as many of us claimed. You just can never admit having the wrong view.
  6. Of course nobody knows but every GM in MLB would not trade any one of these guys for that comp pick, so their current value is higher.
  7. Assuming no additions or subtractions or injuries, here's my guess on the opening day 26 man roster: 60 Day IL: Pedroia 13 Pitchers: Sale, ERod, Price, Eovaldi, Perez, Workman, Barnes, Taylor, Walden,DHern, Hembree (no options), Brice (no options) & Weber (no options) 2 Catchers: Vazquez & Plawecki 1 First base: Moreland 1 Second base: Peraza 1 Third base: Devers 1 Short Stop: Bogaerts 1 Left Field: Benintendi 1 Center Field: JBJ 1 Right Field: Betts 1 DH: Martinez 3 Utility: Chavis, Lin & Arauz (rule 5) Almost sure to get some ML time: P: Velazquez, Shawaryn, Brewer, Osich, Houck, Poyner, Johnson NP: Dalbec, Chatham, Marco
  8. They coulda-shoulda got both.
  9. How about option 3: Ruiz, Gonsolin and Gray? 4 Gonsolin, Stripling and Gray or Cartaya?
  10. Yes, and the hope and idea would be to strengthen the farm to some extent by trading Betts (and maybe other 1 year players now or at the deadline), resetting and then look to try and bring Mookie back next winter and be relevant in 2021.'
  11. Well, once the story broke, keeping him would have been a huge distraction, but before the mess broke, there was no better option.
  12. To me, that shouldn't matter to the plan of needing to improve the farm and young core. It was the lossof Cora as our manager that tipped the balance to all but give up on 2020.
  13. It tipped the balance for me, but I was leaning towards a rebuild mode before the story broke.
  14. I was on the fence before any of this crap came up,so I'm not basing my position on what comes out of the scandal. This is NOT the 2018 team. We are missing 7 of our top 15 PAs players (all with 143+ PAs) #6 Nunez #9 Holt #10 Leon #12 Swihart #13 HanRam #14 Pearce (playoff hero) #15 Kinsler (I know, many look like addition by subtraction, but replacing Nunez & Holt with Peraz does not look very encouraging.) Pitching: We've lost 6 of the top 13 IP pitchers and 6 of the top 9: #1 Porcello #5 Johnson (technically still in the system) #7 Pomeranz #8 Kelly (playoff help) #9 Kimbrel #13 Wright (2.68 ERA) Yes, Devers, Bogey & Vaz all look better, but many others look worse or more questionable. Yes, we can win in 2020, but at what cost to the future? Are the slim odds on 2020 worth pretty much giving up an 2021-2023? It's at least a (yes, highly speculative) valid question to ask.
  15. We'd need to just deal JBJ to reset- maybe for a 5th starter. How about Price (+$3M x 3 yrs) and Chavis for Myers, Margot & Quantrill
  16. Stripling just turned 30 and has been in the bigs for 4 years. He makes $2.1M, this year and has 2 arb years left. Career: 3.51 ERA (115 ERA+), 1.196 WHIP, 8.8 K/9 & 2.1 BB/9 (4.14 K/BB) 2019 was better in every category: 3.47, 1.147, 9.2, 2.0 AAA 3.15 in 20 IP (7.0 K/BB) AA 3.24 in 161 IP (3.63 K/BB) Gonsolin turns 26 in a few months and pitched in the bigs just last year. He's pre-arb. 2.93 ERA in 40 IP, 1.025 WHIP, 8.3 K/9, 3.4 BB/9 (2.47 K/BB) AAA 5.44 in 41 IP-- 10.9 K/9 AA 2.84 in 44 IP--9.9 K/9 A+ 3.21 in 146 IP--11.1 K/9 Cartaya is very young but better promise than any young catcher we have in our system, right now. Ruiz would be a good get.
  17. Okay, we keep Betts, don't reset, miss the playoffs and get nothing for Betts. We suck for 3 years, instead of 1, and my guess is you'll blame Bloom.
  18. Correct, but not so absurd now, is it?
  19. I've wanted that deal for a long time. Now that we have Moreland, we don't really need a 1Bman, but I'd still do it. I'd even give $3-4M a year.
  20. Strippling, Gonsolin and Cartaya, by themselves, are all better than the comp pick. All three together would be way better. Gonsolin and Strippling are better than anything we have on the farm or just called up. Maybe DHern outdoes both of them, but as of now, both are better, IMO. We may be able to get Ruiz & Gonsolin and maybe Strippling or Downs added on.
  21. That's absurd. The only reason we are hearing "garbage" is because Price is part of the deal- yes, the guy you hoped would not opt out. Betts straight up for just Gonsolin, Strippling, Gray or Cartaya is better than a comp pick, and we could get 3-4 without adding Price.
  22. Maybe a miracle happens.Maybe saying it would take a miracle is wrong. Maybe we have a better chance than I think. But to me, it's a sure bet that if we go for it all in 2020, we'd be setting ourselves up for a deeper and wider cliff. The only way we could avoid it is if Henry decides to spend wildly for the next 2-3 years, and that seems highly unlikely. We'd have spent some already had that been an option. The only reason we've held off trading top assets is to keep some semblance of putting an competitive and exciting team on the field for 2020, so ticket sales do not crater and NESN doesn't tank.
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