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These deals weren't meant to get us to the top. They are all short term deals to bide time while our farm gets stronger and deeper. We may be able to deal a few of them at the deadline, of if everything gels, we make the playoffs and have some excitement as we do it allover again, next winter- hopefully with a better idea of what we have on the farm, and a lot more money to spend to the top after the cliff. Bloom has added a lot of farm pieces, a few high ceiling gambles, and some decent players that have options for 2022 and EHern signed for a whopping 2 years. If the plan is to go over the tax line, next winter- maybe by $19M, our options and choices will be way different from this winter's bridge signings. This is about being somewhat respectable, this year, while not damaging our long term outlook and even enhancing it. Some of the crap may stick, and we bring em back. Some will be gone. We'll be much better in 2022.

These are short term bridge signings to help us look near respectable as we punt the major decisions to next winter. Don't read too much into minor deals.

Because he's so muscle bound?

I considered all the current Padres position players for whom there’s a decent sample of 2017 Statcast information available. The player with the fastest average sprint speed? It’s not Manuel Margot. It’s Franchy Cordero. And, the player with the fastest average exit velocity? It’s not Wil Myers. It’s Franchy Cordero. A few days ago, I knew next to nothing about Cordero’s skillset. I knew only of his existence. Now I realize he’s one of the more exciting young players around. Last season, there were 450 players with reliable recorded sprint speeds, and at least 30 batted balls. By speed, Cordero finished in seventh place, and I mean seventh place overall, in baseball, sandwiched between Delino DeShields and Keon Broxton. And then, by exit velocity, Cordero finished in 35th place, sandwiched between Greg Bird and Yulieski Gurriel. This is how I originally came across him — I noticed his name high on both lists, which I certainly didn’t expect. And in order to give you a frame of reference, here are all of those 450 players, with Cordero highlighted in yellow, over toward the upper right. Statcast tracked 49 Cordero batted balls in the majors, and he hit ten of them at least 105 miles per hour, for a rate of 20.4%. There were more than 400 players with at least 50 tracked batted balls, and here’s the entire list of batters with a higher such rate than Cordero had in his cup of coffee. Aaron Judge Giancarlo Stanton Miguel Sano Nelson Cruz Gary Sanchez Joey Gallo The proper interpretation is not that Franchy Cordero has Stanton-level pop. It’s just that he does hit the ball hard — very hard — and you don’t often observe that skill among burners... He also flashed impressive center-field defense, which might simply follow from how quickly he moves around. Observers have pointed out that Cordero’s outfield defense can still look a little raw and unpolished, but it’s important to consider that he entered the Padres’ system as an infielder, and he only started playing in the outfield in 2015, and in center field in 2016. Cordero is a positional convert. Having long been a shortstop before, we can tell he has the arm and the footspeed to make it all work. The early big-league results were encouraging. Franchy Cordero: a young center fielder with tremendous speed, A-grade strength, and a developing tendency to hit the ball in the air or on a line. Given a full season, right now, Cordero might strike out 200 times, but his approach could also take a step forward, and the suite of skills establishes a fairly high floor. When you can homer and play center field, you don’t need to do much else to be good. I don’t know why it feels like Cordero has mostly been ignored to this point, but of everybody in the Padres’ system at this writing, there’s no other player I’m more amped to watch.

Are these career threatening injuries? Does injury prone mean he's going to break an ankle, next? I'm not trying to yank your chain, here, but I'm not sure a few unrelated injuries means he's bound to get hurt, this year. (He did play in the fall league after 2020.)

It would be nice to see a major step up from him, but wedon't need him to be great anymore than we needed Beni to bounce back. I actually think Cordero's ceiling is higher than Beni's, but his floor is probably much lower, although Beni looked pretty low,last year. He may just be a platoon player like Beni was likely to be, and he has 3 years of control to two from Beni.

Careful with the word "always." He was hurt in 2018 and 2019. He played 34 games in 2020- way more than Beni's 14. Let's give him a chance. He does need to pass the physical for the trade to be completed.

I've never been high on Chavis, but I hate letting guys like him stick around on the 40 man roster always wondering "Is he for real?" In our current situation, I'd like to see him get a somewhat long look, this year, so we can decide once and for all to DFA or keep him. My guess is, he will be gone after a long look, but why not give him one more extended look? Is Arroyo or Gonzalez players you just have to play everyday?

2015: 126 games (524 PAs) minors 2016: 137 games (602 PAs) minors 2017: 123 games (528) FgW, minors & majors 2018: 97 games (396) FgW, minors & majors 2019: 40 games (296) FgW, minors & majors 2020: 43 games (157) FgW & majors (60 game MLB season) Certainly not great, but not as bad as I thought after hearing all the banter.

Without any more additions, this could be our 4 player bench: Plawecki Arroyo Gonzalez Chavis Our CF options are still lacking. EHern is probably the best defensively, but Gonzalez is not great at 2B, so I'm kinda scratching my head. I still think we have one more addition to make, and Chavis starts in AAA. Best defense at 4 positions: 2B: Arroyo LF: Cordero/Renfroe CF: EHern RF: Verdugo 2nd Best? 2B: EHern LF: Cordero/Gonzalez CF: Verdugo RF: Renfroe/Gonzalez

Opening Day Roster 1. Cordero LF 2. Bogaerts SS 3. Devers 3B 4. Verdugo CF 5. JD DH 6. Renfroe RF 7. Dalbec 1B 8. Vazquez C 9. Hernandez 2B Bench: Plawecki, Arroyo, M Gonzalez, [Chavis or sign CF or 2Bman] SP1 ERod SP2 Eovaldi SP3 Richards SP4 Perez SP5 Pivetta RP1 Ottavino RP2 Barnes RP3 Brasier RP4 Hernandez RP6 Sawamura RP7 Andriese RP8 Brice/Whitlock IL: Sale AAA: Chavis, Arauz, Duran, Munoz, Downs, Gettys, Puello, Ockimey Houck, Mata, Seabold, Mazza, Weber, Gossett, Hart Taylor, Valdez, Brewer, Bazardo, Walden, Gonsalves, Springs, Feltman

$3M/1 with $1M in incentives. Seems a little high. I think I might have rather had Marisnick at half that cost or Schoop at $4.5M. That being said, here are Marwin's career innings at each position: 2252 SS 1601 OF (mostly LF- only 3 in CF) 1481 1B 1037 3B 846 2B UZR/150 by position +0.5 1B -2.5 RF -2.7 3B -4.5 2B -6.8 SS +13.2 LF +8.4 OF We still don't have a CF'er better than EHern. Is Marwin going to see the most time at 2B? BTW, Marwin's splits are nearly equal .732 v RHP (better OBP) .724 v LHP (barely better SLG)

Maybe our biggest hope for a blue chip is with our next draft.

He was likely to get more PAs than Beni for us, in 2021. You know, the "FT'er" we just traded away.

Well, a cliff involves a bit of surrender.

He certainly could be a flame out like Willie Mo, and it's not like Bloom had a spotless record with trades and signings with the Rays. I'm cutting the guy some slack. 1. We don't know the pool of players he has to choose from with those 3 PTBNLs. 2. Winckowski sure looks like a throw-in, but he's ranked right behind Whitlock- a guy many here got a little excited about. 3. It's not like anyone here was sure Beni was going to bounce back. I keep hearing the term "sell low," and I used it myself a few times, but "sell low" means he's sucked, recently. Yes, we know Beni can be good: he showed us a few years back. 4. Franchy Tuscadero has had some success in the minors, as have many flame-outs, but he seems to have the tools to put up numbers as good or better than Beni. The high K rate is very concerning, but he's got speed and raw talent. I'm holding off judgement, but I know that's a cop out, so if I had to call it right now, before we know who the 3 other players are, I think this is an okay move designed to give us some hope for the near future (3 years of Franchy vs 2 of Beni at a higher cost) and the longer term with the other 4 players.

When compared to all utility players, I'd call EHern one of the best. Beni was not slated to be a FT LF'er for us, in 2021, so it's a little deceptive to say we traded a FT'er. Nobody got too excited when we got Big Papi at age 27- not that Franchy Tuscadero will come close to what Papi became. As for Sawamuro, who knows when signing guys like him. At $2.4M/2, it's hardly worth mentioning over the Renfroe signing and Ottavino trade. This is what a cliff and rebuild looks like.

Well, #31 has a locker there, now.

...or 2Bman and move EHern to CF where he is clealrly better.

John Winckowski placed #32 on the top sox prospect list at soxprospects.com- right behind Garrett Whitlock. https://soxprospects.com/players/winckowski-josh.htm

EHern UZR/150 (last season with 100+ innings at position) 2B -6.2 (-26.9 in 2020) SS +10.4 (+0.4 in 2018) CF +8.4 (+49.3 in 2019) LF +18.0 (+24.8 in 2016) RF +11.9 (-5.8 in 2017) Total OF:+ 12.0 in 2055 innings Career DRS by position (innings) +18 2B (1263) +14 LF (603) +4 CF (1109) +3 SS (536) +3 RF (343) -1 3B (155) -2 1B (89) +21 OF (2055) +18 IF (2044)

I can understand not wanting Cordero as the FT CF'er, but I doubt we add an aging CF'er, even if he accepts 2 years. I doubt we're even talking to him, now. Another trade may be in the works, as well as announcing the Sawamuro signing. https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2021/02/boston-red-sox-hirokazu-sawamura-agree-to-two-year-24-million-contract-pending-physical-report.html

So, minus about $800K, and we saved $1.4M and whatever Beni would make in an Arb, next year minus Cordero's salary.

...and guys like Kinsler can be picked up mid season pretty easily, although Buttrey turned out better than expected. We also have Munoz & Arauz and Downs as a possible late season arrival.

I was assuming no more additions, but I actually agree with your point. I've been saying for a while, our team looks better with EHern in CF, and I'm not sure Cordero over Beni changes that. (Neither would look very good in CF.) It's what I'd prefer, but I posted what I think will happen- not what I want to happen.