moonslav59

Any reason why?

LOL. I'd love him back- just not at the money and years talked about, here. JBJ> Pillar or Marisnik and likely both combined, and if we have no spending limit, I'd be fine with JBJ being signed, but we only have so much to spend, and pitching has 3-4 slots in bigger need than JBJ vs Pillar.

Very reasonable and a decent team. I wonder what the budget line might be on this team.

Maybe he read all the bashing posts on this site.

He did, "Someone currently on the roster."

If 495 didn't pass by Lowell, I may never have visited it.

Mexico's death/cases rate is over 9- about the worst in the world, but we have slightly more deaths per million than Mexico and are pulling away. We may be spenders this winter, but not by that much.

If Pillar costs half of what JBJ gets and maybe 1-2 years not 2-4 years, I'll go with Pillar. Pillar .784 career vs LHPs m(.678 v R) or Marisnik .711 v LHP (.638 v R) plus Brad Miller .772 vs RHPs (.619) or Dee Gordon .694 v RHP (.640 v R) Might be a nice and cheaper platoon than just getting JBJ alone (.752 vs RHP/ .685 vs LHP)

I'd rather have Quintana or a second tier SP'ers or 2 decent pen arms than an expensive 2Bman. It's not just expensive FA pitchers that are available.

I'd give Chavis & Chatham for Leclerc, Odor and Hernandez & $7M cash. The site accepted it. I'd actually do it without the cash or Hernandez (maybe sub Trevino) or maybe just $3M ($1M a year).

While Odor is owed $27M/2, assuming 3rd year option is declined and LeClerc is owed $15.5M/3, assuming his 4th year is declined, which it may not be, and the total is about $33M for the next 2-3 years, total, the luxury tax hit is only $11.9M combined. That really works great for the Sox. We get our closer and a possible starting 2Bman. Even if we end up cutting Odor, eventually, $12M a year for a decent closer is okay. I checked out the Trade values site and a Chatham & Groome for LeClerc & odor showed a net of 16 in the Ranger's favor. That could be made up for in a number of ways: 1. Some cash going to BOS, which would lessen the tax. 2. Get a catcher in return and maybe trade Vaz: Huff C/1B value 16.7 (minors) Hernandez C/1B value 11.0 (minors) Trevino C value 2.9 (MLB pre-arb) 3. Pitching prospect: Crouse 7.1 Rodriguez 6.9 4. ML pitcher: Palumbo 6.3 (LHP can start) Martin 5.6 (LHP) Cody 0.9 (RHP) The site accepted: Chatham & Groome for Leclerc, Odor, Hernandez & Martin and Chavis, Chatham & Groome for Leclerc, Odor + $5M, Hernandez & Crouse and Chavis & Groome for Leclerc, Odor +$7M & Hernandez

Maybe his O>D?

Steve Adams... The Red Sox aren’t ruling out a reunion with Jackie Bradley Jr., as general manager Brian O’Halloran told reporters yesterday that the longtime Sox center fielder is “definitely on our radar” (link via MassLive.com’s Christopher Smith). Bradley has been linked to Toronto (who hasn’t?) and Houston thus far in the offseason, and the center fielder himself told former teammate Will Middlebrooks in a recent podcast appearance that he’s heard from multiple clubs in free agency. -MLBTR

I voted for Jake on the CF thread. The more money we have for pitching- the better.

How about Groome & Chatham or Chavis for Odor & LeClerc plus some cash?

Unless we can get a good 2Bman for cheap, I'd rather roll the dice with what we have at 2B and address that area at the deadline, if we are in it. All resources should be directed at pitching, pitching, CF and more pitching.

Maybe I was thinking of Gordon. I think Merrifield would be too costly. I was hoping for a 2Bman better than the crew we have now, but if he's needed in CF, we'd have more than enough depth to cover his slot at 2B. We could just sign 2 CF'ers- one a clear starter and the other a back-up, or maybe a platoon situation. I'm not high on bringing Duran up, until he shows success at AAA and gets more CF experience under his belt. (Plus, don't use up a year of team control, in case he turns out to be a keeper.)

If he can play RF (move Verdugo to CF), I'm on board, but I'd like to see us get a CF'er and a 2Bman who can play CF (back up) without being a major defensive liability. Didn't you mention another player who can play CF and 2B? I'm not against Miller, but who else is there that can do this?

He doesn't seem like he has any "go to" pitch, either. It looked like he did well, this year, with smoke and mirrors- kinda like Walden in 2019. Now, sometimes, smoke and mirror pitchers can sustain success. Valdez is not all that high on my list to DFA or trade, but he's close enough.

Agreed. See below.

Agreed. One year of Lynn is not what this team needs. Adding Odor would not cancel out the need for us to add a valuable return piece to Texas.

I guess it depends on management's opinion on Duran being ready for a call-up, in case of an OF injury. I think we sign or trade for an CF'er AND a player that can play CF and 2B. If that happens, trade Wilson.

One, short season. One 30 IP sample size. I admit, I'd like to keep him around, just in case he's found something he's never had before, but I don't see many players on our roster, now, less promising than him. (Remember, he was not on my bottom 4 list, but I had Brice there, and it appears he's here for opening day.

LOL, no. I'm just saying, the real Valdez gets hit hard, at times, so taking those two outings away is not being true to who he really is.

Why assume that wasn't the "real" Valdez? The guy has spent 10 seasons in the minors and has a 1.35 WHIP (1.38 in AAA) in almost 700 IP, there. His AAA ERA was 4.56.