moonslav59

I think JH would stay over, too, if our window ever lasted 3 years. In our 3 year window from 2016-2018, we were only over in 2018 (and 2019, too.)

There should be several opportunities to take on salary from other teams looking to make budget cuts or to improve their budget spending by shedding dead money or likely dead money. The big plus for the Sox would be that the team would have to fork over another, younger and better player as a reward for helping them shed salary- kinda like Ottavino & German for basically nothing. One scenario might be to take on a big contract player that still has some hopes of doing well in 2023. Here are a few teams and players with their BTV numbers: Marlins: -33 A Garcia (RF) -21 Soler (LF- Dugo to RF) Brewers: -126 Yelich (CF) Diamondbacks: -36 Marte (2B/OF) -33 Bumgarner (SP) -7 Melancon (RP) -6 Ahmed (SS) Royals -17 Dozier (1B) Tigers -32 Baez (SS/2B) -29 ERod (SP) Twins -7 Dobnak (SP) -5 Maeda (SP) Nats -138 Strasburg -54 Corbin Reds -22 Moustakas White Sox -13 Moncada (2B/3B/DH) -12 Grandal © -10 Garcia (UT) -5 Lynn (SP) Cardinals: -12 Matz (SP) Braves: -9 Rosario (LF) -5 Morton (SP) Cubs -21 Suzuki (RF) -11 Stroman (SP) -10 Hendricks (SP) Rockies -109 Bryant (3B/LF) -32 Freeland (SP) -14 Blackmon (OF) -12 Diaz © -5 Grichuk (LF) Giants: -8 DeSclafani (SP) Mariners: -20 White (1B) +2 Winker (OF) Phillies: -64 Castellanos (DH/OF) -9 Kingery Mets: -9 Carrasco Yanks -21 Donaldson (3B/DH) -21 Hicks (OF)

Thank you for your generous contribution to a worthy cause. Does our $25 depend on Red giving rare specifics?

Indeed. That's why I mentioned SEA. Most likely, we end up with 2 WC from the ALE and 1 from the ALW. That means 3 of 5 ALE teams might make the playoffs- the same number as 2022, so the schedule won't really help any one ALE team over another, in theory. If, for some reason, SEA struggles, it may help a 4th ALE team squeak in.

Won't open. Why not tell us the suggested trade?

For those who would trade the farm away, here is one for you... BTV accepted this trade as a moderate overpay by the Sox: Rafaela, Yorke, Wikelman and Jordan to MIA for 6 years of Garrett and 3 years of Berti This was accepted, too: Mayer, Houck, Walter and Seabold to PIT for Reynolds and Bednar Sign: Correa, Nate and Fulmer Here you go: C: McGuire/Wong 1B: Casas/Dalbec or Hosmer 2B: Story 3B: Devers SS: Correa LF: Berti CF: Kike RF: Reynolds DH: Dugo/ Hosmer or Dalbec IF: Arroyo OF Refsnyder SP1 Sale SP2 Garrett SP3 Eovaldi SP4 Bello SP5 Pivetta SP6 Paxton/Crawford/Winckowski/Mata Closer Bednar RP2 Whitlock RP3 Fulmer RP4 Schreiber RP5 Barnes RP6 Taylor/Brasier/Reed RP7 Kelly/German/Ort (Note: I would not do this.)

I'm okay with Kike at SS, 2B or CF, but to me, he's best in CF and is an excellent defensive CF'er. I'm not sure why we would move him around to make someone else fit in. I like Nimmo, a lot, but we'd still need a RF'er. Let's just get a SS and RF'er and keep Kike in CF.

I think it will be Dugo-Kike-Gallo. I’d like to see Dugo-Kike-Berti with a SPer combined in the trade.

Maybe, but I heard the same after the wink wink AGon signing.

Then, when we name names, and they suck, he never lets us forget it. I could have said, we need to sign a top 2Bman, last winter and been 100% correct. Almost everyone thought Baez was a top 2Bman, even if they did not like the cost associated with his signing. Nobody said he was not a top 2Bman in MLB. I said I wanted Baez, and was very wrong about him, at least for 2022. I'm fine with being wrong, but when Mr. non specific rails on and on about me getting that wrong, it rings very hollow, to me.

Who is all riled up? You seem as riled up as anyone else. Nobody is asking you to do Bloom's job for him, nor do we think we are doing that when we give specifics to our suggestions. It's not overanalyzing. You make very pointed comments like on Kike getting a $10M/1 deal, and then won't give even one specific example of a better choice. Yes, it's your choice to be the way you are, but don't act like we are all riled up or overanalyzing, just because we ask you to back up your opinion with specific evidence. It's how debates and discussions are structured in this world. We didn't invent the idea that positions should be supported with reasonings, evidence and examples. It's not being "riled up" to ask for specifics.

We should keep Bogey and Devers, they say, but then give contract amounts that won't keep them. They should trade them before they be come FAs, then when we do, like Betts, Bloom get's shellacked. We should "add a top closer" is a popular refrain from several posters. Who is out there, now? Would you have matched the Mets offer for Diaz? (Nobody would, but Bloom is bashed for not getting a guy like Diaz for less or not getting someone less like Diaz for much less money.) It's not easy on the FA market. All the best players are grossly overpaid, and predicting who the steals will be is very difficult. Who would have applauded Bloom has he signed Martin Perez, last winter? How many praised him for signing Wacha, Hill and Strahm? So far, almost all of Bloom's trades included us getting prospects in return or as part of the return. By definition, those trades were not intended to help us get better now (or then, if years ago), although some ended up working out like that (Pivetta & Ottavino), but some fans expected those trades to help us right out of the gate. To me, it's about the time to start transitioning into reversing that trade mode into making deals that help now and in the next 2-4 years while giving up prospects that project to help beyond the next 4 years, too. Will that happen, this winter? Maybe not. Maybe it happens, next winter. Maybe Bloom never pulls the trigger on a top prospect deal. We'll find out.

I agree, the Correa contract might up what Bogey gets, assuming CC is signed first, but he is 2 years younger, so I'm not sure it's a great comp.

I don't think that trade gets made without the extension made shortly afterwards at $108M/5. Castillo has 6 years of control, now, and they had him for the 2022 playoffs, as well. I'm fine with trading a hefty package for 5+ seasons of reasonable cost-controlled years. The team gets more of a sure bet for several big ifs. So, who is out there, now? I'd think long and hard about trading for 2 year SP'ers like Beiber or Lopez, unless they agree to an extension.

Joe Reliable is his choice in the pen. Johnny Best in CF. Peter Durable at SP.

AP Poll 1. Georgia 10-0 2. Ohio St 10-0 3. Michigan 10-0 4. TCU 10-0 5. Tennessee 9-1 6. LSU 8-2 (Can they be the first 2 loss team to make the playoffs?) 7. USC 9-1 8. Alabama 8-2 (Another 2 loss team with a chance) 9. Clemson 9-1 10. Utah 8-2 (No chance, IMO) Games remaining: 1 GA @ KY 2 OSU @ MD 3 MI v 23 IL 4 TCU @ Baylor 5 TN @ SC 6 LSU v UAB 7 USC @ UCLA 8 AL v Austin Peay 9 Clem v Mia FL _______________ 1 GA v GA Tech 2 OSU v 3 MI 4 TCU v IA St 5 Tenn @ Vandy 6 LSU @ TX AM 7 USC v 20 ND 8 AL v Aub 9 Clem v SC _______________ Conference Playoffs: 1 GA v LSU 2 OSU or 3 MI vs MN/IL/Pur/IA 4 TCU v K St (maybe OK St Or Baylor) 7 USC v Ore or UT (maybe UCLA/Wash) 9 Clem v 14 NC

You won't get names. You can never be wrong, if you just say... We need to add a top closer. We need to add a good CF'er, SS and SP'er.

But, don't pay them what they need to get paid to sign them.

Wasn't he the guy that was crying about us not trading for the 5.23 ERA Berrios, or was that someone else?

As one poster often says, "Where did (anyone) say we can do no better than Kike at $10M/1 or Nate at $19.4M/1? I have heard some say they like the deals or suggested deals, but not anyone say we can do no better. Perhaps, I am just misinterpreting, again. Overanalyzing, again. Misunderstanding simple English, again.

He loves keeping this thread near the top.

I get that, and those 2 games showed a further drop from the 6 game drop, earlier. The fac t is, his velo dropped in that 6 game sample size, too. A clear drop. While I don't share jacko's philosophy that once velo drops it can never come back, that drop is very concerning to me, especially at his age.

I had reason to say you hated Cora, but you never said it, so I apologized. It wasn't a typo error when you said I "don't like Bogey or Bogey's defense, either." That statement clearly says and means you think I don't like Bogey. I brought it up, and instead of you saying you made a mistake, you doubled and tripled down on that statement as not meaning what it clearly means. It was not a typo, so you are talking about another issue, not the one you are responding to, now. That is "how flawed your logic is." You are seriously reaching comparing anything like not wanting to sign Bogey or devers to hating them vs you saying you would not hire Cora back to thinking you hate him- "big difference", as you would say. There were also many other statements made against Cora than you have ever made against Bogey or Devers, in fact I do not remember you ever saying negative things about those two, so stop your constant strawman arguments. BTW, you could still say you mistakenly said I do not like Bogey, but you won't. It was totally fair saying I don't like his D, al2though I have praised his improvement, this season, but I have never said I dislike Bogey. In fact, I have said I'd offer him a contract very similar to your suggested offer, so if I dislike him, it's b/y no more than you do. Fess up! Come on, man!

Ina ll fairness to jacko, the 6 starts after the first time on the IL showed a drop in velo, too. https://www.fangraphs.com/players/nathan-eovaldi/9132/graphs?pitchgraphs=true&statArr=&legend=1&split=base&time=daily&start=2020&end=2022&rtype=mult&gt1=15&dStatArray=FA&ymin=&ymax=

MLBTR predicted a $34/2 contract on the open market. Maybe, something like that, or a $43M/3 deal might be the offer..