moonslav59

I've not given up all hope on this year, but realistically our chances are worse than '22 and '23's. It is rare to make trades, this early, or even into May and mid June, but looking at possible players to move, at some point, is something worth discussing, IMO. We have to look at our 1 years players in terms of either extending or trading, when we think the maximum return is possible. With Pivetta injured, he'd need to have a few good starts before we can expect a nice return. (I'd like to see us try to extend him for 2-3 years at a reasonable cost.) O'Neill has always seemed like an injury waiting to happen, so waiting on him, might mean missing the window, if he gets a season-ending injury. Jansen & Martin look like obvious tradeable players, since their age means an extension is unlikely. The next set of players involves 2 year players and players who do not seem to fit into our long term plans. McGuire has one more arb year, but Wong has more, so depending on Teel's ETA, he may be trade bait. Yoshida is looking more and more like a player we need to trade and pay to play elsewhere. If we can get someone to eat a chunk of his contract, even if it takes adding another player or blocked prospect to do so, it might be worth looking at near this deadline. If he heats up, like last May and June, maybe his trade value allows it to happen. Refsnyder will be the 6th OF'er, if everyone is healthy. He'll be 5th in 2025, if we don't bring O'Neill back or add another RH'd OF bat. Ref does hit lefties very well, so maybe he holds on. It might take Rafaela or Abreu looking awful for him to win the 4th or 5th OF slot. We can pretty much count on replacing Dalbec & Jacques by Rule 5 day, at the latest. B Walter, Joely and maybe a couple more guys might be axed, as well. The Rule 5 eligible prospects do not include Mayer, Anthony and Teel, so adding them to the 40 may be put off until 2025. Here are some that might be protected: Fitts Yorke Guerrero Bastardo Monegro Jh Garcia Castro (if he shows improvement) Longer shots: Hickey, Jordan, Kavadas, Paulino, Rosario, Rosier, Sogard Dobbins, Gambrell, Troye, Sena Mayer and Bleis are Dec 2025 Anthony and Teel are Dec 2026

Agreed, or sign the oft-mentioned Andrus for cheap. (He'd take a while to get ML ready, though.) It's amazing how Dalbec is second in 40 man roster seniority to Devers. Pivetta is 3rd, and he was added late August of '20! What a massive roster overhaul! My DFA list: 1. Jacques 2. Dalbec (second, only because we have no back-up 1Bman- add Kavadas?) 3. Uwasawa Trade/DFA B Walter Joely Refsnyder (only if we plan on demoting Rafaela or Abreu) Heineman (if we are ready to add Teel to the 40.) We could also move Mata to the 60 day IL, so we could add a man to the 40. Who gets added? 1. Westbrook (2B, 3B, corner OF) 2. Sogard (SS, 3B, 2B) 3. Eddy Alvarez (SS, 2B, 3B, corner OF) 4. Meidroth (3B) 5. Hickey (C, DH, only if a C gets hurt, and we don't want Heineman, instead.) It is likely we will go with what we have until Grissom is called up from rehab. I do not see Anthony, Teel or Mayer being called up, this year- maybe 1 or 2 in SEPT. I'd like to see Yorke and Jordan promoted to AAA. I'm not sure when the big 3 move to AAA. Maybe Perales gets moved to AA. We need to find out what he's got. He does not seem good enough to be in A+ and on the 40, but with our pitching prospects, so low, I can understand why.

The extra games helps, too, as WAR is helped by more games being played. He's still the best. (Acuna is on his heals. Soto might be, too.

While the extensions to Sale and Bogey showed JH was still spending into 2019 and 2020, not bring back Kimbrell & Kelly AND not replacing them in kind, was the first sign of not keeping up with spending. That day preceded DD's departure.

I was one of Bobby Dee's biggest supporters through 2021 and part of '22, but his time ran out months, if not over a year ago. I think Dalbec and Jacques will be DFA's, this year, or be relegated to non 40 man roster farm hands. I'd DFA Dalbec, today and add Westbrook to the 40.

Indeed, and when we suggest possible moves, we often know there is close to a zero % chance it happens. We don't make suggestions for the GM to see and consider.

Remember a few posters said his body type does ""not age well?"

Generational talent. We all knew it. (1.6 fWAR 1st, 9.3 2023-2024 T 1st w Acuna, 15.4 2022-2023 2nd to Judge at 16.5, 19.2 '21-'24 is 3rd behind Judge & Freeman. 2020-2024 (Post Sox) 22.9 Judge 22.5 Freeman 22.1 Betts 20.7 Trea Turner 20.5 Jose Ramirez 20.1 Soto

Maybe this comes closest, but is not as bad... 8/19/20: Dugo, Pillar, Devers, Bogey, Moreland, Vaz, JBJ, Lin, Peraza 8/10/20: Pillar, Dugo, JD, Bogey, Chavis, Plawecki, Peraza, JBJ, Arauz This is close: 9/6/20: Munoz, Vaz, Bogey, JD, Plawecki, Chavis, JBJ, Dalbec, Peraza

Why? Because Duran in LF is not so bad defensively and looks to be way ahead of Rafaela on offense. His net value looks to be greater than Rafaela. Yes, the best defensive alignment would be O'Neill, Rafaela & Anthony, left to right, but I'd prefer Duran, Anthony, O'Neill with Rafaela/Abreu as back-ups when O'Neill or someone else gets hurt.

Actually, he was about to trade Betts, but a short winning streak changed the plans. It was not a point where "all hope was extinguished." Also, aren't we at a point now, where we have less hope than at any point in DD'd reign?

That would force Duran to CF or a trade. The best might be... LF Duran (Refsnyder) CF Anthony (Rafaela) RF O'Neill (Abreu)

The paycheck argument rings hollow to me. He sucks on D at 3B, and it lessens his value by playing him there. I feel he could be a plus 1Bman, where Casas is not. If it turns out he isn't, then Casas and Devers can split time at 1B and DH. This would allow both bats to be in the line-up without needing "rest days."

Nobody is saying extend for 7 years and $147M.

Not something all that new.

He really looks like a keeper!

If he does, then it's a great problem to have. We could trade Duran, Rafaela or the newly extended O'Neill. Anthony is the keeper.

I actually think Devers would be a fine 1Bman. His issues with defense is mostly throwing. He could plays 1B in 90 games, 3B in 10 and DH in 60. Casas 1B in 70 and DH in 90. Since both DH so much, they can bat in 160 games. Our defense would no longer be a minus.

Maybe Yoshida heats up, again, this May and June, and we can get out from under most of his contract via trade. Add McGuire and Pivetta to sweeten the deal. 2025 C Teel & Wong 1B Devers/Casas DH Casas/Devers 2B Grissom, Reyes SS Story/Mayer 3B Mayer/Devers LF Duran CF Rafaela/Anthony RF Anthony/Abreu (Rafaela could platoon with Abreu, as Anthony alternates between RF and CF.) Now, we just need JH to okay some major investment into pitching. (Jansen, Martin and Pivetta come off the books. Gio should return. Hendriks should be back.) We should know a lot more about who we can trust as starters out of Bello, Crawford, Houck and Whitlock.

Mayer may not be called up until late '25, and he could play 3B (Devers to 1B/DH) McGuire could be traded this deadline or next.

What about him? 5th OF? Trade? I'll take O'Neill over Abreu.

LF: Duran CF: Anthony RF: O'Neall 4th: Rafaela or LF: O'Neall CF: Rafaela/Duran RF: Anthony

I just don't see why we'd want to waste a year of control to force a kid to adjust on the fly on a team that is going nowhere, this year. I might even feel the same in 2025 on Mayer, but probably not for Anthony and maybe Teel.

AL East 12-3 NYY 8-6 BAL 8-7 BOS 8-7 TBR 7-8 TOR If we had just won one game v BAL, we'd be in 2nd place by ourselves. It's early, but we are 1 game shy of 10% of the season.

I'd be fine with extending him (and Pivetta,) but with JH's tight wallet, I doubt that is being discussed. If not, we should trade him.