Well, the drop off typically starts around age 30, so I was probably being overly optimistic with the first five years. By the same token, I was probably being overly pessimistic on the back end. However, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that we see a sharp decline around age 33 or 34.
In terms of what I think we probably could have gotten him for and in terms of our need for an ace at that time, yes.
That said, I'm not upset by the trade for Sale, in and of itself. As I've said many times, it's the magnitude of the prospects traded away in such a short period of time.
It's because outs are so important. In baseball, the out is the most precious commodity. Giving up an out via caught stealing takes away a lot of the value of the stolen base. The break even point varies from year to year, but it's typically somewhere around 70%. Someone who steals 2 out of 3 bases successfully is actually hurting his team.
The problem is that both Seattle and Oakland would have to jump over the Yankees, and those two teams have 10 games remaining between them. Believe me, I would love to see it happen, but I don't think either team has it in them if the Yankees play decent ball.
I'm not even talking about his contract. Pujols was older when he signed his, I realize that.
I'm talking about age by age comparisons.
Pujols might not be the best comp. I understand that some players age better than others. But the fact of the matter is, players peak at about 28. They start to decline in their very early 30s, and by the mid 30s that decline is usually quite drastic. It is completely possible that the last 5 years of Mookie's 10 year deal will be an albatross.
There are some players who defy those odds. Mookie might be one of them.
For me, it's too big of a risk to take.
I'll ask again. Is 5 years of an MVP type player worth also having 5 years of replacement level?
Your budget idea has some merit to it. I don't think that the players would go along with it though. I wonder what guys like Moreland and Pearce are thinking playing alongside players like Price and eventually Mookie who are making several times more than they are.
IMO, anything over 4 years is a big contract. For the top players, I can see going 5 or 6 years. And obviously, the player's age is a consideration. For someone like Mookie, I might begrudgingly go 7 or 8 years.
Ideally for me, Mookie would take an 8 year extension this offseason @ $30 mil per year.
Amen, brother Notin.
I am far more impressed with Dombrowski's acquisitions of Pearce, Kinsler, and Eovaldi, and his earlier signing of Moreland, than I am with his acquisitions of Sale, Kimbrel, and Price.
Albert Pujols, through the age of 30, was worth an average of 7.73 WAR per year.
After the age of 30 through the present, he has been worth an average of 1.36 WAR per year.
Even worse, from the age of 32 through the present, he has been worth a mere .6 WAR each year, on average.