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What do think the average major league baseball player and manager would think of this web-site?

I would also add that intellectuals or those self-proclaimed as such have been studying the game for a long time as well. There are also people that are playing that might be considered intellectual but in general I think that I am on safe ground here saying that the average IQ of the boys between the lines isn't anything special. It is still a game and we can make of it what we wish. I think that there is plenty of room for people who see it and value it differently than I do.

I think that many of us and I would include you have always seen it this way to some extent. It was always a statistically driven experience for me as it was for the people who played the game with me.

And I don't think there is anything wrong with that at all. I think that this concept of "sabermetrics" is certainly more refined than ever before but the concept has been used in various ways since the game began. Couple more hits for JBJ so far tonight. He is off to a very good start.

Come on - deep breaths - not worth it. We all tried to be positive. Maybe the reality is what it is.

"our American Cousin" by the way Mr. Stanton (God of War)

Title of the thread is JBJ's Spring - He is off to a very good start. Hope that people aren't counting him out just yet. He has extreme talent.

I think that we think that he thinks more than he does. Trying to be nice there.

explains why I didn't see him in last nights lineup. Hope isn't one who has trouble staying on the field.

Sk - I don't know what I said now. My concept of a clutch player is one who is able to do things that often times you just shake your head at and wonder how did they do that. I absolutely believe that there are athletes like that. I know that there are. At the risk of being harpooned by a few on this forum, I will just say that I have seen them in action for many, many years. I would never deny that clutch players are also very good players who normally have more opportunities to perform in tough situations than others. I truly believe as do the majority of the coaches, players and fans of various sports that I have been involved in that there are individuals who can raise the bar so to speak better than others when games are on the line and pressure at its most intense. I have know data to defend my position and I know that that makes me a "traditionalist" but I am ok with that. Confidence and absolute belief in one's abilities plays an important role as well. The fact that some things just can't be supported by data makes those particular things important to me. If everything in the games was as predictable as some people would like it to be, I would not like the games.

This will make some people really nervous.

What? I normally really do like your posts but you got me on this one. Every athlete that I have ever known including amateurs and professionals agrees with what I said. Much of what you said stated the obvious but I'm really not to sure that I understand the premise that I mistook. I'm going to let this one go for awhile. Once again, I like your posts and think that we could have some civil debates. Also, if you start talking sets and subsets that makes me nervous enough to miss a 2 footer that's worth something. I don't see a lot of compromise in the mathematical approach.

I wish Zimmerman was in a Sox uniform. Hope I'm glad he isn't later on!

Pressure in the field of athletics is something that all athletes at all levels face. Professional athletes have proven that they have the ability to compete in their chosen field better than most. If all professional athletes were able to deal with all of the pressures that they must deal with, there might not be much of a need for sports psychologists. Certain situations I would think would tend to be more pressure packed. The question I guess is can it affect their abilities. I think absolutely. I cannot for the life of me understand that it is even possible to imagine that pressure, nerves whatever don't affect us all no matter what we do and no matter at what level we do it.

If the pitching staff can hold things together, which I think it can, the price for any upgrade might get lower but if the pitching staff struggles no team will be making things easy on the Sox.

One thing I do like about this game is the lack of guaranteed contracts. You get what you earn.

Speith is a great breath of fresh air in the world of sports today. Whether you golf or even like golf, he represents something good about the sports world.

A fairly good start for E. Rodriguez yesterday. JBJ - 3 for 8. keep on hitting jackie. Good starts for both young lefty pitchers.

Very good post. If anyone has had the good fortune to be a low handicapper here you know the difficulties and complexities of this game. I know a little bit about the game and I can say with certainty that I know 12 handicappers that I would much prefer to stand over a meaningful putt than me. I might be better than them day to day but when the larger money is on the line there are those that deal with it better. It doesn't make them better just better in certain situations. I can only speak for amateur athletics but there are them that can get it done under the gun better than others. Maybe they are clutch maybe they choke less, I don't know, but it happens and I have to say that sometimes it really pisses me off. Over and out on this subject for me. I can only speak for what I personally have and do experience.

It really is good fun. A lot of passion here. I know that on my part it can be misguided but without it I'm not living.

Kimmi sorry - Jordan Spieth is just clutch. We will see how it goes. If he backs up, I will retract.

Every game is a big one for the Buckster. Hope he builds on the last one.

And as the pressure builds and becomes more and more intense, most seem to fold. I guess the last ones left standing are just damned good at doing what they do. The world just keeps spinning round and round.

She's the teacher Northern Star. I wouldn't apologize to most here but I kind of like her. I don't always agree with her for sure but I do respect her opinions. I do hear you though.

I understand. I apologize. I really had a moment. I feel like I am sitting on the bench outside of the Principal's office. You know what that is like. I'm not proud of my moment. I have to work hard sometimes to keep emotions tucked away. I've broken a few golf clubs and fought with officials and friends to. All over stupid guy things. Who can lift the most, who can run the farthest and fastest etc., etc., etc. Sorry.