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  1. cp176
    I think that you are right- their spending is more of a choice than what a normal human would call a budget. The signing of Porcello really should come as no surprise. 20 mil. maybe a little too much. We will have to wait and see about this one. I think that it is common logic and not common sense that they would do what they could do to sign a healthy 26 year old who stands a chance to pitch a lot of innings. I don't think that this signing will limit them at all when it comes to signing the best of they young ones coming on the market next year.
  2. cp176
    What do you think their budget limitations might be? I think that they of course have some sort of budget. You and I can't imagine what it might be though. Let me say again that I am happy to be a Red Sox fan but if you think that there is some sort of spending restraint being shown I guess that is your opinion. I don't care what they do really with their money but personally I think that there will be bigger fish to come that they will be going after. They will win and if it takes money to do it they have shown a great deal more willingness to do it than I ever thought they would.
  3. cp176
    I agree with you. They have the money to throw around and they are doing it I guess. I've tried to figure out what they are doing and for sure I can't. I think that their plan is to win, and money spent I don't think is a big factor. I like their deals over all but I don't think that they are outsmarting anyone. I think they see something they want and they are willing to spend for it. i did like Porcello's comments about the red Sox work ethic. I am a big Brian Butterfield fan. Personally, I think that it is a good time to be a Sox fan. Looks like they are operating on the "if you can't beat them join them theory." There might be some who think that they are done spending. I think that if they feel a need they will spend.
  4. cp176
    Given the $ that they have been throwing around, i don't see how you can say that they won't be in play for the top free agent pitchers on the market next year. If the youngsters don't come along quickly, I think that they absolutely will. Buccholtz pitched a beauty yesterday but i wonder whether he would have been willing to trade places with Porcello. Let's see - pitch opening day or sign a 4 year extension for 20 huge ones per year. He got a feel good start and did a super job with it.
  5. cp176
    For you folks that think they have some type of budget that they are running this franchise by, well I wish I had their budget. Good for Rick Porcello. If nothing else he has proven to me that he is a bright young man.
  6. cp176
    Bottom line for me is that if the Sox see what they want they get it. Right or wrong - they appear to not be limited by budgetary restrictions at all. i like Porcello and I hope that this signing works out for them. I'm not worried about it though. If it doesn't somebody else will be coming in. If they had wanted Lester badly enough' he would have been pitching for the Sox yesterday.
  7. cp176
    C'Mon - give me some lets trade Pedroia ******** now
  8. cp176
    take back everything bad I said about buccholtz
  9. cp176
    That is interesting. It would also be interesting to know how a pitcher's ability to keep runners close affects a catcher's throwing stats. It would seem to make some sense that if a pitcher held runners close and they still tried to advance a catcher might have a higher caught stealing % if he had any arm at all. Obviously pitching to the plate is number 1 on the list but clearly some hold runners closer than others.
  10. cp176
    In terms of where you are rating your catcher's abilities, I agree that having that strong arm does not rank at the top. I also don't think that the human element can be ignored either with respect to what an umpire's strike zone is. They aren't all the same. There are probably catcher's that do a better job framing the corners than they do with the top and bottom of the strike zone. How technical does it get?
  11. cp176
    This I agree with. I guess my point would be that they don't really know yet what they have in Barnes and they are obviously concerned about their starting pitching. They know more than we do but a move to the pen for him now would be puzzling. Just another guess on my part but that's probably one of the reasons he was sent down.
  12. cp176
    I could not find where anyone said that it would ruin him to move him to a relief role. I don't think that it would ruin him but I think that they need to determine who are likely to be their next couple of starters up before making a decision about him. If he looks like he has the potential to start early, it would seem odd that they would decide to use him in relief.
  13. cp176
    I'll apologize for not looking this up first. Just a guess on my part that the majority of pitchers started off a starters. I think that that is safe to say. Many get moved to a relief role not necessarily based on team needs but based on where they are going to most successful. At some point in time maybe Barnes will be moved to the bullpen but hopefully only after there is an upgrade with respect to our 5 starters or the time comes when he appears ineffective as a starter. Moving him now would make no sense to him or the team's future. Eventually it might b right where he belongs.
  14. cp176
    I think that I probably am like most fans in that I see the value in the use of metrics but I would not want to be the one compiling them all. I just read a couple of articles and a couple of things do puzzle me. I'm not being disagreeable or sarcastic here. I'm interested in your take. The first article talked about the luck factor and how metrics can be used to evaluate it. The second talked about how the strike zone seems to be lowering. How often do the people inputting the data have to change and update to try to account for changes like these? Umpires I would think are responsible for the lowering of the strike zone to a great extent and I guess I always saw luck as something that you really couldn't predict.
  15. cp176
    I don't like the concept of young pitchers who have been starting pitchers in your minor league organization being bounced around if they have been successful. If the decision has been made that Matt Barnes is not apt to be successful as a starter then it may make sense to use him in the pen. I haven't read or seen anything saying that though. Starting pitching is quite often challenged in Boston. If he shows promise as a starting pitcher, I see know reason to use him in the bullpen.
  16. cp176
    Thank heaven for the fact that they aren't trying to screw up another potential starting pitcher by using him in any type of relief situation.
  17. cp176
    That is really what I was trying to and wanted to say. The stats are very important of course. We all know that. There are a few other things to consider as well.
  18. cp176
    Oh I like it to. I appreciate the detail and the work that goes into compiling this data. I don't disagree with using it at all. It is another tool to use to help paint a picture. Doesn't paint the whole picture but it is certainly useful info.
  19. cp176
    12 types of wrong - really - 12 types? 30 seconds? It takes me longer than that to find my wallet and keys. I realize how important it is to gather and use as much information as you can get before making decisions but at some point in time you have to sift through it all to come up with a best case scenario. I'm glad people do this type of work. I would certainly use this the information but I would pay to have it done. I like a little subjectivity also. That's how I see the world. Not much is either or for me. I try to understand people and their opinions. 30 seconds - really! I just read an article about the current Sox pitching staff and the predictions based solely on metrics for them. I was actually pleased to see that 2 different sites could vary in their predictions as much as they did. They even even have a way to include the luck factor using metrics.
  20. cp176
    I was going to mention the hands - huge
  21. cp176
    I do not dispute the fact that you have done a good job compiling this data. I just don't think that it could possibly be that black and white. What criteria was used to determine a catcher's ability to frame the plate? I think that there is great room for subjectivity here and it really boils down to what you like in a player as opposed to what these statistics show. I want that average pitch framer with a great arm who can hit. How many wins does that amount to when compared to a great pitch framer with a great arm who can't hit a lick? In a ideal setting, a catcher could do it all but they don't come along all that often.
  22. cp176
    I agree with everything you said here except that maybe there is someone who might know what makes him tick. If they know, they have been doing a good job of keeping it a secret. I hope it works out. We are going to need him to stay healthy and consistently decent.
  23. cp176
    Pedro seems to think that Bucchotlz pitching on opening day is indicative of him being considered the closest thing to an ace that the Sox have at present. Although I might not agree with Buccholtz over Porcello, I have to say that I do agree with Pedro that most pitchers who get the ball on opening day consider it an honor and one that is earned. If he thinks it is a big deal, i tend to think that it is as well. In his case, it is experience talking.
  24. cp176
    I think that I agree with you. Minus the hitting, Vasquez was (is ) the real package. Framing, fielding the ball, and working with the p-staff. For me, what made him particularly special was his ability to keep baserunners from advancing. On a team filled with pitchers who really didn't do much of a job at keeping b - runners stationary, he was a bright light. his arm makes him tougher to replace than any of his other abilities.
  25. cp176
    Thnx - agreed
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