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Oh i don't think that there was any intention to be bad at all. I'm hoping that they thought that they could get by fine with what they had. They made some mistakes. It will be interesting to see whether or not they attempt to fix the mess we are in.
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Well maybe i was trying to sugar coat how I really feel. they aren't showing me that they really are that interested in admitting to say nothing of trying to correct their mistakes. We have some strong armed starters right now and any number of them could be pitching at the end of the game if the goal was to win this year. I think that we might be in for a long summer.
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A number of you have said for awhile now that this was going to a rebuild year. Not making any extra effort to sign your only true stars seems to indicate that you might be right. If you are, then using Whitlock in a starters role might be what they want to do going forward. The decisions that they have made so far don't show me that the interest in winning this year really matters all that much to them. If it is all about the future then Whitlock should start but so should Houck. If you want your best potential closer in the pen, I don't think that it is Houck. i think that it is Whitlock. if you aren't going to make the decisions that might make us a better team now, bring up the kids.
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Actually and somewhat sadly, i think that you have summed it up pretty well.
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hey - I'm a big pivetta fan. I couldn't be happier for him. Going forward, my guess, he'll be fine.
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Rough start for Groome .
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Groome goes for Portland tonight. if he pitches well, how impressive would that staff look?
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correcto!!!
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Since this isn't a political discussion, I am not forced in to taking a side. Compromise is still ok. There is a vast difference between 80 and 140 as well as the obvious 0 to 80. I get your point but making it this way doesn't register well for me. Probably just me. I'm going to go with conditioning and overall fitness still possibly playing a role. it works better for me than simply saying manager stupidity. If I were to hang my hat on the way you have stated things, i guess that I could take this discussion right back to the youth league level where kids who have not reached puberty are actually experiencing TJ surgery. Throwing a ball repetetively for 12 months might just being taking its toll in general. i'm going with if your bullpen is weak, maybe you ought to try to get just that one more inning and maybe 10-15 more pitches out of your starter.
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Does kind of make you wonder about fatigue being a factor. Is it possible that some of these guys just tire out? Maybe conditioning plays a role in all of this.
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Oh I forgot to say that personally I think that not using a pitcher who is throwing well with a low pitch count simply because you fear what might happen when he sees anybody for the third time, is a sad way to coach. Maybe you watch him carefully but you don't yank hm just because.
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You use as much information that is available to help you do the best job that you can do but it seems to me that an extensive use of analytics to defend certain stances makes it look as though they are also being used to provide a crutch when things just don't work. Common sense and coaching means that on occasion you do what you think is the right thing to do. it is possible that a good decision might not be supported by analytics. Paralysis by analysis is a real thing. Houck and Whitlock should be both used as starters at this point or relievers but jerking them around being used as both isn't going to help this situation. They are young guys who need to have clearly defined roles. It is kind of looking as though the real hitters on this team might be our big three - Devers, Bogaerts, and Martinez. If these professional hitters are not going to be in our future, my choice would be to bring up the kids and see what they can do. What we are doing right now appears to be an exercise in colossal failure.
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you are right and it is quite obvious.
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hmmm -
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I don't disagree with you about trying to get too much too soon out of him but 78 doesn't seem to be excessive. I'm thinking at least start the 6th. In general, I see a trend here with Cora.
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I understand that the numbers don't lie and that the information is useful to have but every now and then don't you just have to go with the gut and manage? I did not see the game last night but Whitlock threw 78 pitches over the course of 5 innings and then was pulled. Unless there was something going on that I'm not aware of or possibly another plan for him, I don't get it. I would think that the time has come to see what you can get out of your starter if they are in the middle of a good one with a low pitch count. What are the numbers saying about our current success rate once the game is turned over to this bullpen? If winning is important, I think that I wouldn't be quite so quick to pull a successful starter.
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How about Jay Groome's latest effort. Maybe things are falling into place for him.
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I think that it is pathetic to think that any manager would pull a starter who is pitching well while throwing a limited amount of pitches simply because he is afraid of what might happen with a team seeing him for the third time through. I know what the metrics say but you have to coach to the moment regardless of what any one trend might say. With all of that in mind, I have to say though that I like our starting pitching and I think that I might like it more in a couple of months.
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You said a great deal in this statement that does unnerve me. If this calculation can be adjusted to suit the needs of one side or the other, can others be adjusted to do the same thing? Watching Bogaerts start this season off the way he has tends to make me say that yup he is the best overall shortstop that has been in a Red Sox uniform. it would be an absolute shame to watch him leave. I also understand that we have some very good middle infielders at the lower levels but it is going to take a while before they are ready. Much of what we see and interpret can be "in the eye of the beholder" I guess but I have seen data adjusted mathematically also which does assure me that the old eye test still plays a very big role in talent evaluation.
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Reed with a knockout punch for Portland last night. What a brawl.
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hmmm - so does that make him a much poorer shortstop than he was yesterday?
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Red Sox trade Hunter Renfroe in trade involving Jackie Bradley Jr
cp176 replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Bloom's moves so far are looking very good. I like what I have seen. Obviously it is too early to make any kind of major judgement call on him but he has an eye for good talent. You can't keep them all though and when and if the big trades do come the judgements will come flooding in then. -
Red Sox trade Hunter Renfroe in trade involving Jackie Bradley Jr
cp176 replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Binelas and Hamilton have both looked very good so far. -
Red Sox trade Hunter Renfroe in trade involving Jackie Bradley Jr
cp176 replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Based on what I have read about the starts that the two prospects gotten in the trade that brought JBJ back to Boston, I feel fairly safe in saying that Bradley was a somewhat small piece in this puzzle. he is what he is, but the two we got in the trade both have come out on fire. -
You are right.