Bellhorn04
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Please clarify how you think Cora should have approached Devers about the position changes.
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Based on his admittedly rare public statements and other evidence, including the recent meeting with Devers. When they traded Betts it was Henry who wrote a big explanatory note to the fans about it. All the information seems to point to him being deeply involved in all the big decisions. And why wouldn't he be? He's the biggest stakeholder. And he probably is more of a 'baseball man' than most baseball owners. Why does any of this smack of conspiracy theory thinking?
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A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part II
Bellhorn04 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Brandon Walter, who was outright released by the Sox in 2024, is with Houston now. In 5 starts he has pitched 29.2 innings with a 3.34 ERA and a 1.05 WHIP. -
Now that the dust has settled on the Devers trade a bit, the timing of it does indeed look like another Red Sox fiasco, because it looks like it did kill the season, and the only logical explanation for the timing is that the Sox didn't want to lose the chance to have another team take on the whole contract.
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I think Henry is a hands-on owner.
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Trading Devers can't happen unless Henry signs off on it. Henry is the constant in all the mess since 2019. He fired DD, he ordered the trade of Betts, he hired Bloom and Breslow. He keeps having ideas that turn out to be really bad ideas.
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Yeah at the end of the day it's another debacle for a team that has been brutally mismanaged since 2019. What I'm really noticing lately is a lot of hate toward Breslow. He may not be long for this job.
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Lots of accusations there that may or may not be true.
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Doesn't seem fair. In 26 playoff games Devers has a .955 OPS, 8 HR and 26 RBI.
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Sounds good in theory but that's not a binding agreement because it can't be. It would basically be worth no more than telling him we'd love to have you back. Once he's traded you lose any possible control of the situation. If you really want him back you offer an extension.
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That was Max. To be fair he was only referring to a stretch of games we won because of our pitching. Beyond that I'll leave it to him to explain.
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A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part II
Bellhorn04 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
As one of the blogsters at Over the Monster put it, the Red Sox have become Groundhog Day. -
I agree in principle. But in reality some of these guys are in fact man-children who have been glorified and heavily rewarded for their sports prowess since they were kids. Sometimes whether you like it or not you have to be a child psychologist with them, because they are the talent that you win games with. The old school approach of Billy Martin wanting to swing it out with Reggie in the dugout just isn't in favor any more.
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I don't get it. Isn't that exactly what you thought management should do? You said Devers was being a "whiny bitch". If the guy was being that kind of difficult, what approach exactly do you think Cora should have used that would have worked?
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To be candid I've wondered if some of the bad play falls on Cora. Maybe it does. But there's so much stuff we don't know. Like with the hitting. They seem to have gone all in on the Driveline stuff. Does it seem to be working? I'm pretty dubious about it, myself. We strike out so much and seem to be lousy at situational hitting, generally speaking. The average runs per game might look okay, but we sure seem to post a lot of 1's and 2's, many of which lead to painful losses featuring blown saves and Manfred Man nightmares. 🙃
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It was a fair question you asked.
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Sale, Price, Porcello and Eovaldi. All veterans with a lot of mileage on them. Some of it was being overtaxed in the 2018 postseason, I have to think. Price and Porcello were basically finished, as it turned out.
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Breslow went ahead and had that awkward conversation. Apparently it didn't go so well. If it was a simple matter to get Devers to play 1B, he'd still be with the team.
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I like him. I think he's a good in-game manager. He makes some moves that seem questionable but he generally has an explanation for them. I think he comes to games prepared. It seems an accepted fact that players like him. He made moves that paid off in the 2018 playoffs, especially using the starters in relief stints. The 2021 team had a surprisingly good run. He's knocked the Yankees out of the playoffs twice. I've always tended to be a pro-manager guy, always thought they take more abuse than they deserve.
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And the slightly odd thing is, Breslow played the game.
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You know as well as I do that it's impossible to quantify the value of a manager. What does Bruce Bochy bring? Well, 4 rings. A bunch of crappy seasons too. The real question here is why does Cora still have his job? Why have Henry, Kennedy et al decided to retain him, why did they sign him to an extension, why the reports that he's probably going to end up in the front office? "He must have compromising pictures of Henry" is of course the fallback joke. When this was used a while ago, another poster, I think it was Randy Red Sox, came back with a great line: "Any picture of Henry is compromising".
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We gave up 181 more runs in 2019 than in 2018. The pitching was light years worse. If you want to blame that on Cora, that's certainly your prerogative.
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Please. You said "can we stop blaming the downfall of the organization on the Sale trade", and now you're mad because I called that exaggeration. I can't help it if the mention of that trade always gets you worked up.
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Well, you could start with most of the rotation falling apart due to injury and our runs allowed increasing by 181, I suppose. You know this stuff, you just don't like Cora.
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Exaggerate much? The Sale trade is just one item on a fairly lengthy list. The downfall started around the same time they decided that Betts was expendable.
