Bellhorn04
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The only fair way to analyze the correlation between payroll and wins is over a longer period like 5 years, 10 or 20 years. And you know darn well how that will look. The correlation has been documented. Plus there's common sense (Yankees/Dodgers vs. Marlins/Pirates). The only team that has been able to beat the correlation over an extended period is the Rays.
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They can only control the games they play. But I really don't know what your point is. If you're a .500 team you're going to miss the playoffs because too many other teams will have better records.
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For 2024 I think just getting in the playoffs would have been acceptable, yes.
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Judging their record relative to other teams is unfair? Huh? I probably shouldn't have said that about KC and Minny. The only real point I wanted to make was that the AL East being stacked was part of our problem in 2022/2023, but this year the Rays and Jays declined so it should have been easier for us to make it.
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Yeah, we're gonna put Crawford back in the pen once we sign a #1 and a #2 and a closer. moon really gave in to some dreaming in that post.
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Agreed. All good points IMO.
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Do you call it acceptable? I think some context is needed. I consider it unacceptable in view of the Red Sox being the 3rd wealthiest team in the sport, and in view of the expansion of the playoff field to 12.
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Article: Travis Shaw, The Third Baseman That Got Away
Bellhorn04 replied to Bryce Whitlow's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
Nice article, thanks. Just a couple of comments: 1) The trades for Thornburg and Carson Smith were sort of uncharacteristic for Dombrowski, who has been accused of not being good at assembling bullpens, or of simply neglecting them. Unfortunately both trades were total busts. 2) Shaw was not actually unsuccessful for the Red Sox in 2021. He had an .843 OPS in 48 PA's, with 3 HR and 11 RBI. -
He may even have gotten a head start on it.
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Part of me is a little amazed at how upbeat a lot of folks remain about the 2024 team. They're 17-25 in their last 42 games (including the suspended game), for cryin' out loud. That's roughly equivalent to the 24-36 performance of the much-lamented 2020 team. Their run differential is down to +8. They could easily end up under .500 again. The owners and front office have done a phenomenal job tamping down fans' expectations. All that said, nobody wants to just keep spouting or hearing Debbie Downer thoughts. I'm just venting again and I'm itching to say something positive. Hopefully Breslow and company get it together for 2025. Hopefully.
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It's great that the farm is looking much better, of course. But I'm not convinced the guys making the personnel moves are anything but a bunch of bunglers.
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They have become masters at assembling .500ish teams. I'm sure they can do it again next year.
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The way they're going, they have a great chance to make it 78-84 3 years in a row. They have made no progress whatsoever this year as far as being a competitive MLB team. That's a huge failure, and I don't think we should try to sugar-coat it.
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It's in the realm of possibility, but a Mayer trade this offseason would definitely qualify as shocking, to me anyway. The fact he's on the IL again would have to depress his current value a bit, too, I would think.
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There are no simple rules that consistently work. The last repeat World Series winner was in 2000. Last year Texas won it all largely on the strength of their second-tier guys, Eovaldi and Montgomery, coming through, with the big studs deGrom and Scherzer of no help.
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You seem to be able to get away with a lot in the world of clickbaiting!
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My Captain Obvious response would be this: what if we do that, and Skubal gets injured, like a huge chunk of his fellow pitchers have, including the "unicorn" Yamamoto? It would be instant devastation for the Sox.
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Yeah, I mentioned those 3 in my point #3.
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I'm holding our ownership partly, maybe even 50%, to blame, for our failure this year We have more money than the teams I mentioned but we're not really using it a weapon the past few years. It's easy to say, but if they had given Craig a larger budget maybe he would have done something like sign Imanaga, which would have made a big difference.
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Definitely a mixed bag in Craig's first year. 1. Love the moves to acquire pitching prospects. 2. Hate the lack of moves to bolster the 2024 rotation. 3. Sale/Grissom/Giolito/Paxton/Garcia/Sims make me a little nervous the guy has worse luck than Joe Btfsplk. 4. If the Sox miss the playoffs this year, I'm afraid Craig gets a failing grade for 2024. There's no excuse for not being able to beat out teams like the Royals and the Twins.
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Where did this come from, other than inside the writer's head? I see nary a quote in it. Edit: I think what probably happened here is that the guy who wrote the story didn't write the headline. A clickbait headline was chosen by the publisher.
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I believe Giolito was 2 years guaranteed for the player, with an opt-out after one year.
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They were 2 separate transactions. Boston recovered $10 million in the Sale trade. If you want to apply that to the Giolito signing that's fine, but that's kind of an arbitrary thing. Breslow was handed a budget and he had to make his moves fit into that budget somehow. Edit: do you have a link to the story about the Braves initially being willing to take on the whole $27 million while not giving up Grissom? I never heard about that. If it's true, that would mean they in effect allocated $17 million of the 2024 payroll number to Grissom.
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If multi includes two it would be Giolito. If not it would be Eovaldi.
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It's been a crazy 2 games so far. Starting pitchers all abused. Dodgers have prevailed in both. That 1-2-3 of the Dodgers is one hell of a gauntlet to get through.
