Bellhorn04
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Personally I'm giving Buchholz the benefit of the doubt on this. I'm taking him at his word that he was afraid that by pitching he was going to further injure his arm. I can understand why a pitcher would be paranoid about the health of his arm. Pitchers' arms get seriously f***ed up on a regular basis.
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The Rays have a tough second-half schedule but if they keep getting the pitching they've been getting, they're a handful.
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That's a possibility. Personally I don't think we are in a position where we can give up a proven starter for an unproven one. We only have a handful of proven starters and we are amassing some young pitching of our own.
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Ok, but that's a series of trades...I just meant one trade. You're thinking about a real BLOCKBUSTER.
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Optimistic poster at 8:21 PM last night.
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Agreed. I just find it hard to see a scenario where we would trade Lackey and get a better pitcher in return, unless it was a 3-team trade.
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When you're thinking about trades you have to figure out what team or teams you would match up with and what trade would seem to make sense for both teams. It's not too often you're going to trade Slocumb for Varitek and Lowe.
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LOL, what a game thread to read this was. Yikes.
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Fair enough. But let me counter with this question then: is there any evidence that the 'driving up the pitch count' strategy is actually effective in increasing run production?
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Just to add to the discussion about swinging at the first pitch, we all know that a big part of offensive strategy now is seeing a lot of pitches and driving up the starter's pitch count. But at that same time this is going on, overall run production in the big leagues keeps going down. Verducci of SI thinks the strategy of taking a lot of pitches has something to do with it, that by doing this hitters are getting into more pitcher's counts and striking out more.
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Apparently Lyon had some incentives in his contract based on appearances or whatever and that factored into the going-nowhere Mets releasing him. It saved them some money.
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Obviously, swinging at the first pitch all the time is not a good thing. Hitters pick their spots to do it. The logical reason for doing it is pretty simple. The pitcher doesn't want to fall behind in the count, right? The easiest way to avoid that is to throw a fastball over the middle of the plate. If you're a hitter and you are expecting the pitcher to do that, is it smarter for you to take that down-the-middle fastball for a strike, or to swing at it? It's all part of the game between pitchers and hitters. You can't just do the same thing all the time.
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A lot of baseball does take place in an alternate universe.
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It must be balls in play.
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Except when thoughts of Hanrahan, Bailey and Buchholz's current status enter his head.
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AL hitters are hitting .336 this year when they swing at the first pitch. Ellsbury was hitting .400 swinging at the first pitch, before today's game.
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The first pitch is often the best pitch to swing at though.
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Makes me think kinder thoughts about Tommy John, that's for sure. (John pitched for the Yankees in the 70's-80's and I hated him.)
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No, that'd be foolish on my part too. Anyway I was just trying to make a point, I don't really care that much either. I just think that the odds are that Bailey's name will show up in some MLB box scores again at some point. Like I said teams are just desperate for pitching and we can see why. The attrition is unbelievable.
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Ha...now that would really be a foolish bet on my part.
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OK let's say we make a bet...if Bailey makes 10 MLB appearances by the end of 2016 I get $200. If he doesn't you get $100.
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Josh Johnson and Mark Buerhle dealt to Jays
Bellhorn04 replied to jacksonianmarch's topic in Other Baseball
So after the 4-day All-Star layoff, with a chance to set up their mighty rotation for the stretch, the Jays' first starter in the Rays series is...Esmil Rogers! -
If the Yanks don't make it the playoffs this year it'll be the second time since 1993. The misery of it all.
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Nice numbers.
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I wouldn't count him out of baseball just yet. MLB teams are so desperate for pitching they will try out anybody who ever did anything and who can still get it to the plate at 89 MPH.
