You're really just throwing stuff out there. Obviously one of the posters you're talking about who approved of this year's bullpen was Kimmi. And she doesn't give up until we're mathematically eliminated.
Let's just compare our 2019 ERA splits to our 2018 splits:
2019
Starters 5.08
Relievers 4.46
2018
Starters 3.77
Relievers 3.72
Increase
Starters 1.31
Relievers .74
The starters have gotten worse by 77% more than the relievers have.
You keep bringing the Yankees into it. It's true that their bullpen is much better than ours, and that the strength of their bullpen offsets the weakness of their rotation.
But their bullpen was much better than ours last year, too. The difference is that last year our starting rotation was much better than theirs. It was expected to be the same this year. We were supposed to be constructed more like this year's Astros pitching staff, whose strength is in the rotation.
I don't disagree that DD neglected the bullpen this year or that it cost us some wins.
But you're so fixated on the bullpen that you can't see that the real disaster has been the starters.
You have to be kidding.
Rick Porcello 5.54 ERA
Chris Sale 4.68
David Price 4.36
Eovaldi injured
Cashner 7.53
Other spot starters - horrendous
Yeah, sure, 'influential posters' are just making up stuff about the starters to cover up for the bullpen.
You still really think it's more the bullpen than the starting pitching?
I think it's actually been a while since the bullpen blew a game.
The starting pitching has been so bad, the bullpen doesn't really get that chance...
Ellsbury, Betts & Papelbon were not free agents.
But Manny Ramirez, John Lackey, David Price, JD Martinez, and some others like Victorino depending on how far down you want to go.
For the most part, the guys DD has traded away are not what you would call losses that are haunting us. Beeks has a nice W-L and ERA with the Rays but his peripheral numbers are not impressive. Ty Buttrey looked like a possible significant loss but he's been struggling recently.
True. But you know what fans and media are like. The Atlanta Braves of the 90's have come to be known as a team that dominated the regular season but only came away with one title.
The Dodgers haven't won it all since 1988. If they don't start having some parades they'll be put in the same category as those Braves teams - or those Buffalo Bills teams perhaps.
The Yankees, meanwhile, are pulling miracle performers out of the air. Urshela, Tauchman, Maybin. What the hell...these guys are insanely outhitting what their histories would suggest.
I would agree that it's a reasonable valuation.
The truth is that sometimes, like dgalehouse, I get a little fed up with the onslaught of theoretical numbers.