It's the same thing that Mazz suggested yesterday. I don't know if it's groupthink or just them having a good read on ownership by now.
I've said all along that Monty was going to get overpaid. I've said all along that Snell wasn't my type of pitcher. I could see them going for Monty because he seems like he could at least be a workhorse to give you high quality innings, but that's something you can get a little more cheaply. Makes sense that they would potentially skip past these two.
@JustinMLB
Zack Wheeler, Walker Buehler, Corbin Burnes, Mike Soroka, John Means, Max Fried are all UFAs after 2024. It’s a good time to snag an ace if you need one.
Time to start the Off-Season 24-25 Thread!
@tylermilliken_
According to @alexspeier, it doesn’t seem like the Red Sox have changed their stance about trading for Corbin Burnes or Shane Bieber.
“Burnes is an unlikely target given he’ll be a free agent after next season and seems unlikely to sign an extension before testing the market. Bieber likewise has just one year of control remaining, though he seems at least open to the idea of a longer-term deal.”
Also, Shota Imanaga is expected to visit the states next week and could be using Eduardo Rodriguez’s deal as a “reference point.”
If he knew, he wouldn't have done the Betts dance at the Winter Weekend and then told everyone it was going to be awesome. He has no clue on how to be coy.
@LouMerloni
It’s time to walk the dog in the morning and reassess where the Sox are and what’s the best path. Just telling you now, you’re not going to like it.
https://twitter.com/LouMerloni/status/1738283709139144771 Includes audio.
Get it straight from the Guvnuh's mouth... If ownership won't pay for 10 years of Yamamoto, there's no way they'd pay for 7 years of a lesser pitcher in Snell or Montgomery.
Manea is awful. If he couldn't be successful with the Padres, it won't work out anywhere. Lorenzen isn't an improvement over the guys already on staff IMO. Once you get down to that level, just go with Crawford and Houck.
For example, his pitch band is more similar to Maeda than Yamamoto. Maeda is good, but not someone teams have been willing to give 6 years to in his 30's.
Age, plus they only pitch once per week in Japan on a set schedule. I'm not saying he'll suck, but that there's increased risk that his game won't play as well.
Yeah dood, you're only looking at one season. As I previously said, Stroman has a long track record you can bank on. Lugo doesn't have a track record outside the cozy confines of PetCo and the Padres defense.
If you redo that offseason and spend the Hanley/Pablo money differently:
SP Ervin Santana
SP AJ Burnett (don't sign Masterson either)
3B Chase Headley
OF Nelson Cruz
Are you only a patsy if you don't know you're a patsy? I think Crag knows what the deal is and is just willing to work under those terms. Not sure it makes him a patsy. He just took a CBO position for a declining franchise that is now a mid-market team.
Imanaga is interesting, but his numbers are worse than Yamamoto's in Japan, especially in innings. He could be great, but I worry about his lower velo not playing as well over here in MLB.
I'd be worried about years 4-6 in that deal.
The comp to Lugo is the YOUNGER Michael Lorenzen. I'm not sure I'd invest a lot of money in either guy.
Stroman is consistently a 2-4 fWAR SP year in and year out.
Giolito was a 4 fWAR guy in '21 and consistently pitches every 5th day. It wouldn't be a huge shocker for him to do that one or two more times in the next four years. At least you'd expect him to be Porcello-esque.
With Lugo, there's not track record.
I don't think Giolito is getting that much. If I'm just grabbing one player it's Stroman. If I'm spending a max of $55 it's Stroman, Montas, Duvall, Merrifield. For 75 I'd add in Giolito.
@TheRealJPap58
Verdugo I mean Vertigo is a Bitch. Cora has his players and teammates backs more than anyone in the game. You aired yourself out by being late, lazy and unproductive. If I played for Cora I’m drilling this bitch, just saying.
I like Paplebon more as an ex-player than as a current player, I think.
Pretty sus that there are no reports about them being close to the 300M amount right now. They should be either trying to save face or at least out there showing that they are doing the legwork.