jimmycarter05

Use these guys for a SS/CF trade in my opinion.

That Tejada guy is pretty good, I like this trade, but we still don't have a SS and I'm guessing we move Trot to LF if this happens.

So what does this trade look like? Who are we getting and giving up?

Jimmy Rollins is a great leadoff hitter, great flat out hitter.

Rollins and Rowland? No way in hell the Phillies trade either one of them. Even for a play of Manny's stardome.

I also don't think the Phils will give up Jimmy Rollins.

360 RBIs? That's more than 2 a game.

I very much so doubt Paps will be in the pen with all the bullpen guys the Red Sox have signed so far.

I think Jim Rice should have made it, but you have to give credit to Bruce Sutter because he was the first one ever to throw a split and he really invented that pitch, he's definately HOF.

Sports baby! Hate It or Love It! (that's a great song too.)

Sorry about the double post, and I don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but its another case of Manny being Manny; After spending much of the winter trying to accommodate star slugger Manny Ramirez's wish for a trade, it appears the Red Sox might now have to stop in their tracks. Or maybe not. Ramirez, who as a 10-5 player (10 years in the Major Leagues, five with the same team) can veto any potential deal, supposedly told an ESPN Deportes reporter in Miami that he no longer wants to be traded. "There will be no trade. I'm staying in Boston, where I'm familiar with the system and where I have a lot of friends, especially David Ortiz," Ramirez was quoted as saying on ESPNdeportes.com. However, Ramirez told his agent, Greg Genske, that he wasn't aware of speaking to a reporter from ESPN Deportes, or any media member for that matter. Perhaps Ramirez held a casual conversation with Enrique Rojas, who wrote the story for ESPNdeportes.com, but didn't know that Rojas was a reporter. Speculation has fueled so much of this latest Ramirez saga, in large part because the player has yet to declare his intentions in a public forum. Until the ESPN Deportes article, there hadn't been a Ramirez quote in any publication since the Red Sox's season ended in early October. Furthermore, even in light of the latest story, of which the accuracy could not be confirmed, Genske told Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com that Ramirez was still open to being traded. "If Boston is able to work out a trade with Baltimore or another team, Manny is still open to making a move," Genske told FOXSports.com. Red Sox co-general manager Ben Cherington had no comment on the latest twist regarding Ramirez. Early in this offseason, the Red Sox were having a hard time generating a proposal substantial enough to consider trading Ramirez, the American League's premier right-handed hitter of the last decade. But hope arrived on Dec. 8, when Orioles shortstop Miguel Tejada announced that he was also looking for a change of scenery. What better way for both teams to satisfy their disenchanted All-Stars than to trade them for one another? The Red Sox and Orioles had been discussing the matter frequently over the last couple of weeks, but as of Thursday, the clubs couldn't agree to a package that was satisfactory to both sides. The Red Sox, according to several reports, have also offered up right-hander Matt Clement as part of the potential blockbuster. There have also been rumblings that Ramirez would only agree to a trade to Baltimore if they extended his contract beyond the three years and $57 million he has left. But if Ramirez indeed wants to stay in Boston, that issue would become moot. "I'm going to take things easy and focus on my career," Ramirez allegedly told ESPNdeportes.com. If Ramirez has in fact done a complete reversal, it wouldn't be the first time. Look no further back than July 2005, when Ramirez, citing privacy issues with the city of Boston, told the Red Sox he wanted to be traded. After a couple of days in which the Red Sox explored a deal with the Mets, the slugger wound up staying and appeared to be happy about it. Just hours after the July 31 trade deadline passed, Ramirez dramatically delivered a game-winning, pinch-hit single and got a huge ovation from the Fenway faithful. "These are the best fans in the world, man," said Ramirez immediately following that game. "They want to win. I want to win, too. I'm back." Is he back again? It's hard to tell. Per usual with Ramirez, the whole matter remains highly mysterious. Keeping Ramirez stationed behind Ortiz in the Boston lineup could be a big boost for a team that has undergone considerable transition this winter. Leadoff man Johnny Damon fled to the Yankees, Bill Mueller went to the Dodgers and Edgar Renteria was dealt to the Braves. Ramirez, Ortiz, Jason Varitek and Trot Nixon could allow the Red Sox to have some semblance of familiarity to their everyday lineup. One thing that seems highly unlikely is that Ramirez will go to the Mets, or any other National League team. "I know the American League system. That's one reason I don't want to go to the National League," he was quoted as saying on ESPNdeportes.com. "I also want to play for a contender, and I think with Boston, I'm assured of that."

Yeah the D-Backs had Curt Schilling and RJ going.

So Youk will play third on some days when Snow is playing first because Lowell will have the day off?

Yeah, I definately wouldn't be surprised if Tejada goes to the White Sox. They're offering a top pitching prospect, plus a pretty good SS, Jose C, who was great in Chicago, and another prospect. Better trade than we're giving them.

There is no possible way that package of players is going to get a 7 time GG winner with a great clean up bat, we'd probably have to add another above average player to it.

I don't want to trade Arroyo, because I think he's a very reliable 5th starter. I'm more in favor of trading Clement because he would be more of an asset to the lower level teams like Cincy or the Tigers for example if they wanted him, which they prolly do.

Yeah, hasn't he played like 800 straight games or something, and the reason that Tejada has more errors is because he trys for more balls.

Back-Back up catcher, image trying to run him over at home plate.

What about Paps and Marte for Crisp and Cliff Lee?

Yeah Adam Stern is to the Red Sox what Bubba Crosby is to the Yanks.

It shoulda been whoever won the game got the 1 pick.

Great post, elbseruo, but I think we would have to add two B level prospects to get that trade done and take all of Sweeny's salary(roughly 11 million), I still have some questions about your trade though, what about the money, would we have to pay some of Manny's salary still and would we take all of Sweeny's salary?

It seems to me that the Mets are doing what the 1997 Marlins did, they rented a team, went out and got all the good players and then after they won the WS they had a fire sale, the Mets clearly have to money to continue if they win the WS, but if they don't my guess is that they have a firesale.

What a harsh blow to Soxfan's manhood.

As much as I like Soriano(everyone here knows I do), I wouldn't want to trade Josh Beckett or any of our young pitchers for him. We also don't need him now since we have Loretta, I still would love to have him on the Red Sox, but his unwillingness to change positions and the fact that we dont' need him, I wouldn't make this trade.