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Posted
4 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

I don't see them cutting Thaiss loose. He's the main backup at C. 

I thought so, too, but correct me if I'm wrong: Delay has been getting more time at C with WOO, right?

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Posted
28 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I thought so, too, but correct me if I'm wrong: Delay has been getting more time at C with WOO, right?

Delay 166 Innings 

Thaiss 125 Innings

Gasper 86 Innings

Montero 0 Innings

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Cespedes hit his 8th dinger (.911) and Guzman his 3rd in GRE's loss. Berrios got lit up.

I did not realize until I read it today that Cespedes suffered from hamate bone surgery all last season. 
 

thus far, a healthy hand and wrist has been very beneficial to his overall numbers. 

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Posted

At Worcester -  Lloyd with his 2nd tater of the season. 
 

at Portland - username Garcia with his 6th tater of the season 

at Greenville - Guzman with his 3rd tater of the season. And cespedes with his 8th tater! 
 

at salem - opata with his 3rd tater of the season and his 20th stolen base on the year. 

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Posted
19 hours ago, Old Red said:

KC in May. 8-39 with 19 K’S 1 HR 5 RBI. He doesn’t seem to be progressing very much, or at all.🤔

I remember listening to an old soxprospects.com podcast, when KC was hitting in the minors but right before he blew up nationally.  

The scouting report on him then was how polarizing he was to scouts.  Some scouts absolutely loved him and others thought his swing was to uppercutty and he'd get exposed at the higher level. 

I'm not sure if they should have never messed with his swing and just let him hit the way he always has, or if he needs more time to make these adjustments. 

I always liked KC, and I'll be rooting for him to put it all together but I always thought the extension was way way way too premature.  I like the ideal of extending guys early, but I think they jumped the gun on KC. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I remember listening to an old soxprospects.com podcast, when KC was hitting in the minors but right before he blew up nationally.  

The scouting report on him then was how polarizing he was to scouts.  Some scouts absolutely loved him and others thought his swing was to uppercutty and he'd get exposed at the higher level. 

I'm not sure if they should have never messed with his swing and just let him hit the way he always has, or if he needs more time to make these adjustments. 

I always liked KC, and I'll be rooting for him to put it all together but I always thought the extension was way way way too premature.  I like the ideal of extending guys early, but I think they jumped the gun on KC. 

They were afraid he'd become a complete superstar and they'd have to trade him to the Dodgers after refusing to pay him fair market value when he entered his prime. 

They weren't afraid to risk $60 million over eight years, knowing they'd probably lose that to him in a few rounds of arbitration if he lived up to his Barry Bonds nickname.

A multi-billion dollar company can afford to pay the IKFs of the world $6 million per to sit on the bench.

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Posted
22 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

They were afraid he'd become a complete superstar and they'd have to trade him to the Dodgers after refusing to pay him fair market value when he entered his prime. 

They weren't afraid to risk $60 million over eight years, knowing they'd probably lose that to him in a few rounds of arbitration if he lived up to his Barry Bonds nickname.

A multi-billion dollar company can afford to pay the IKFs of the world $6 million per to sit on the bench.

I'm all for early extensions, but let the guy get at least a few months in the majors. 

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Posted
8 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

I'm all for early extensions, but let the guy get at least a few months in the majors. 

At that point, the leverage shifts from the team to the player! 

Old-Timey Member
Posted

POR won 1-0, and the big news was they K'd the opps

20 times!

Wehunt went 5 IP, 4H with 11 Ks and 1 BB. Halligan fanned 6 in 2IP and Adams 3 in 2IP. This after Bennett K'd 11 in 5 IP. yesterday for a record. Alcantara went 3 for 4. The team had just 4 hits.

Woo scored 4 in the first and lost 9-4, despite walking 7 times.

Other games were rained out or in a rain delay.

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Posted
15 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

At that point, the leverage shifts from the team to the player! 

I don't think it's so black and white, it's not like there's a thin line where it's all team leverage and all player leverage. 

If wait a few years yes the price tag may go up, but if you're buying out 4-5 years of control the team still has lots of leverage. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I don't think it's so black and white, it's not like there's a thin line where it's all team leverage and all player leverage. 

If wait a few years yes the price tag may go up, but if you're buying out 4-5 years of control the team still has lots of leverage. 

Yeah, there isn't a big difference between one day in MLB and 4 months in MLB in terms of leverage. Even a year and a half shouldn't up the price tag too much IMO. Even if it goes up 2M AAV, that's not the end of the world for a team like the Sox. At least make sure the guy is able to stick in MLB before he's getting his deal.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I don't think it's so black and white, it's not like there's a thin line where it's all team leverage and all player leverage. 

If wait a few years yes the price tag may go up, but if you're buying out 4-5 years of control the team still has lots of leverage. 

With Bello, we only added 1 year of control.

With Anthony, KC & Rafaela I think it was 3 more with options.

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Posted
27 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

With Bello, we only added 1 year of control.

With Anthony, KC & Rafaela I think it was 3 more with options.

Bello added a year plus a club option.

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Posted
1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

With Bello, we only added 1 year of control.

With Anthony, KC & Rafaela I think it was 3 more with options.

But how much did we really gain with KC? he spent most of last year in the minors and I'm assuming all of this year as well. 

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Posted

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/boston-red-sox-top-48-prospects/


Rk    Name    Age    Highest Level    Position    ETA    FV
1    Franklin Arias    20.5    AA    SS    2028    60
2    Payton Tolle    23.6    MLB    SP    2026    55
3    Anthony Eyanson    21.6    AA    SP    2027    55
4    Connelly Early    24.1    MLB    SP    2026    50
5    Dorian Soto    18.3    R    SS    2031    50
6    Juan Valera    20.0    A+    SP    2028    50
7    Enddy Azocar    19.2    A    CF    2029    45+
8    Henry Godbout    22.5    A+    SS    2029    45
9    Jake Bennett    25.5    MLB    SP    2026    45
10    Kyson Witherspoon    21.8    A+    MIRP    2028    45
11    Justin Gonzales    19.4    A+    RF    2028    45
12    Marcus Phillips    21.8    A+    SP    2028    40+
13    Harold Rivas    18.0    R    CF    2031    40+
14    Hector Ramos    18.7    R    2B    2031    40+
15    John Holobetz    23.8    AA    SP    2028    40+
16    Sadbiel Delzine    18.4    R    SP    2031    40+
17    Miguel Bleis    22.2    AA    CF    2027    40+
18    Mikey Romero    22.4    AAA    3B    2028    40
19    Hayden Mullins    25.7    AA    SIRP    2027    40
20    Jedixson Paez    22.3    MLB    SP    2026    40
21    Tyler Uberstine    27.0    MLB    MIRP    2026    40
22    Tyler Samaniego    27.3    MLB    SIRP    2023    40
23    Angel Bastardo    23.9    AAA    SIRP    2026    40
24    Yoeilin Cespedes    20.7    A+    2B    2029    40
25    Jhorman Bravo    18.0    R    SS    2031    40
26    Eduardo Rivera    22.9    MLB    SIRP    2026    40
27    Alec Gamboa    29.3    MLB    SP    2026    40
28    Gage Ziehl    23.0    AA    SP    2028    40
29    Brooks Brannon    22.0    AA    1B    2027    40
30    Yordanny Monegro    23.6    AA    SIRP    2027    40
31    Allan Castro    23.0    AAA    RF    2026    35+
32    Yophery Rodriguez    20.5    A+    CF    2028    35+
33    Marvin Alcantara    21.6    AA    SS    2027    35+
34    Mason White    22.7    A+    SS    2029    35+
35    Leighton Finley    22.2    A    SIRP    2029    35+
36    Nelly Taylor    23.3    AA    CF    2028    35+
37    Blake Wehunt    25.5    AA    MIRP    2026    35+
38    Ryan Watson    28.5    MLB    SIRP    2026    35+
39    Starlyn Nunez    20.6    A    SS    2029    35+
40    Conrad Cason    19.8    R    SP    2029    35+
41    Jakson Gamboa    19.3    R    SP    2031    35+
42    Berny Ortiz    20.8    R    SP    2031    35+
43    Gerardo Rodriguez    20.5    A+    C    2029    35+
44    Dalton Rogers    24.3    AA    MIRP    2026    35+
45    Jojo Ingrassia    23.8    A+    SIRP    2027    35+
46    Jose Bello    21.0    A    SP    2029    35+
47    Louis Andujar    18.7    R    3B    2031    35+
48    Garielvin Silverio    17.6    R    LF    2032    35+

Old-Timey Member
Posted

Arias found his power: 2 dingers and 3 hits. He's at 1.066.

Holobetz found his groove, again, too.

6IP 5 Hits, 0 ER, 0BB, 6K

Verified Member
Posted
17 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

I don't think it's so black and white, it's not like there's a thin line where it's all team leverage and all player leverage. 

If wait a few years yes the price tag may go up, but if you're buying out 4-5 years of control the team still has lots of leverage. 

Wait! What?? I do not think you are accounting for the player’s agent and the agent’s control of the client and what the agent thinks is best for the agent, even at the player’s expense! 
 

have you ever sat down and had a conversation with any of these agents???  There are guys on death row, that have done less evil in the world than most of the agents have in baseball! 

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Posted
3 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Arias found his power: 2 dingers and 3 hits. He's at 1.066.

Holobetz found his groove, again, too.

6IP 5 Hits, 0 ER, 0BB, 6K

Pinto with his 2nd tater on the season! 
 

Gilman with a good outing despite average stuff! 

Posted
2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Arias homered, again. He has 11.

Paez and Rogers went 3 scoreless, each.

0 hits

1 BB

7 Ks combined

Finley had a nice stat sheet today, unfortunately I did not get to see him pitch in person yet: 

Posted

WOO was rained out, yesterday.

Arias and Jo Garcia had 2 hits each in POR's 4-3 win. Rosario had a dinger and another hit.

GRE lost both the make-up game and their scheduled game by one run. Cespedes and Y Rod each had 2 hits, and Cespedes homered, Witherspoon had a good game: 4.1 IP, 2H, 1ER, 2BB, 6K.

SAL won 10-2 on 9 hits and 6 BB. Tucker homered.

Posted

Arias is second in OPS in the Eastern League. He's 4th in HRs.

Cespedes is 14th and Gonzales 20th in the South Atlantic League.

Azocar is 14th in the Carolina League. Heyman is 22nd.

Gasper 11th & Sogard 27th in the International League.

Posted

Eyanson has an eye-popping .350 OPS Against and 0.61 ERA. Let's see how he keeps going at POR.

Mullins is second at .466. This guy seems to keep getting the job done but remains at POR. Barrett Morgan ha sstarted out well at SAL and is third at 4.67.

.471 Rogers FCL>POR

.492 Guerrero WOR (has pitched for BOS)

.516 Reyes SAL

.529 Jacob Mayers SAL

.561 Rivera POR>WOO

.572 Bennett WOO (has pitched for BOS)

.621 Futrell SAL>GRE (on IL)

_________________

TOP OPS (100+ ABs)

1.084 Arias POR

1.077 Brannon POR

.947 Gasper WOR (BOS)

.942 Cespedes GRE

.892 Gonzales GRE

.873 YRod GRE

.873 Azocar SAL

.871 Mason White GRE

.871 Sogard WOR (BOS)

.865 Godbout GRE

.861 Capra WOR

.858 Ferguson POR>WOR

.853 Winnay GRE

.834 N Baez POR

.803 Heyman SAL

_______________

TOP OPS (20-99 ABs)

1.214 Louis Andujar FCL

1.162 Jo Rodriguez FCL

1.083 Primera FCL

1.054 Ro Hernandez GRE

.877 Peguero FCL

.825 Hudson White GRE

.784 Jo Garcia

Look at all the GRE batter's numbers! They have 8 batters over .825! When the season began, many of us were in awe at GRE's projected rotation:

Valera, Witherspoon, Eyanson, Phillips...

.

Posted
On 5/23/2026 at 2:05 AM, Larry Cook said:

Wait! What?? I do not think you are accounting for the player’s agent and the agent’s control of the client and what the agent thinks is best for the agent, even at the player’s expense! 
 

have you ever sat down and had a conversation with any of these agents???  There are guys on death row, that have done less evil in the world than most of the agents have in baseball! 

Let me reframe my point. 

 

It's not like the team has 100% of the control and the player has 0

and then one day...

the player has 100% of the control and the team has 0. 

The control is amorphous and gravitates towards the player as they accumulate service time. 

Posted
On 5/24/2026 at 1:29 AM, Larry Cook said:

Finley had a nice stat sheet today, unfortunately I did not get to see him pitch in person yet: 

I love his pitch mix and build. If he adds velo, he's going to move up the system easily. Not sure about the ceiling at the moment, but it's good to have starters like him around. 

Posted
18 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Arias is second in OPS in the Eastern League. He's 4th in HRs.

And that's hitting in POR in April and May!!!!

Posted
18 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Arias is second in OPS in the Eastern League. He's 4th in HRs.

Cespedes is 14th and Gonzales 20th in the South Atlantic League.

Azocar is 14th in the Carolina League. Heyman is 22nd.

Gasper 11th & Sogard 27th in the International League.

Azocar got the callup. He'll really mash in the HR heavy SALY. 

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