Red Sox (Giolito) vs Blue Jays (Gausman): 9/23/25, 7:07pm

[mvp 78]

12 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Now, that looks like a flop.

So, would Detroit.s chart.

 

[FredLynn]

14 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

 

The Tigers have flopped big time, but two teams can both flop in the same season. One team flopping doesn't exclude others from doing the same thing.

[moonslav59]

4 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

The Tigers have flopped big time, but two teams can both flop in the same season. One team flopping doesn't exclude others from doing the same thing.

Of course not.

4-2, 11-9, 18-12 and 45-27 are not flops.

[dgalehouse]

It is not really possible to handicap any single MLB game. Baseball is a game of inches, with variables, randomness and luck involved. These are professional athletes. They have been through many pressure situations. Any "choking" that happens is mainly in the minds of fans, sitting in their overstuffed easy chairs, munching their Doritos and sipping their diet Dr. Pepper, or whatever, while having anxiety attacks and clutching their pearls. 

[mvp 78]

14 minutes ago, dgalehouse said:

Any "choking" that happens is mainly in the minds of fans, sitting in their overstuffed easy chairs, munching their Doritos and sipping their diet Dr. Pepper, or whatever, while having anxiety attacks and clutching their pearls. 

A lot going on here. I'm just glad this wasn't addressed at me. 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Of course not.

4-2, 11-9, 18-12 and 45-27 are not flops.

It's like responding to a flat earther.

[notin]

2 hours ago, FredLynn said:

Not for me. Getting in is enough progress. Not getting in for me means our GM and manager didn't do their jobs well enough.

So if they get in and lose two quick games in Cleveland, they’re not flops.  But if they lose out on that last spot on a tiebreaker, they’re not flops.  
 

That’s a hard line in the sand.

 

i look at it this way.  When was the last time we were still even talking post season and using phrases like “Magic number” at the 157 game mark?

[mvp 78]

20 minutes ago, notin said:

So if they get in and lose two quick games in Cleveland, they’re not flops.  But if they lose out on that last spot on a tiebreaker, they’re not flops.  
 

That’s a hard line in the sand.

 

i look at it this way.  When was the last time we were still even talking post season and using phrases like “Magic number” at the 157 game mark?

In '21, they were 0.5 games up on SEA and went 4-1 to close out the season. They didn't clinch until game 162. 

[moonslav59]

7 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

In '21, they were 0.5 games up on SEA and went 4-1 to close out the season. They didn't clinch until game 162. 

Bunch of floppers!

[mvp 78]

11 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Bunch of floppers!

That team was pretty close to missing the playoffs until they didn't. 

[moonslav59]

40 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

That team was pretty close to missing the playoffs until they didn't. 

...and then, they almost reverse flopped, so how does that figure into the complicated flop exemption guidelines?

[mvp 78]

10 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

...and then, they almost reverse flopped, so how does that figure into the complicated flop exemption guidelines?

I don't even pretend to know the definition of flopping since I've seen it written on here that this franchise has a history of only flopping. 

[drewski6]

2 hours ago, dgalehouse said:

It is not really possible to handicap any single MLB game. Baseball is a game of inches, with variables, randomness and luck involved. These are professional athletes. They have been through many pressure situations. Any "choking" that happens is mainly in the minds of fans, sitting in their overstuffed easy chairs, munching their Doritos and sipping their diet Dr. Pepper, or whatever, while having anxiety attacks and clutching their pearls. 

I love doritos and diet dr pepper, although i dont usually drink caffinated beverages past noon, and very rarely eat doritos before noon.  And my diet dr pepper drinking has gone down since i got my nespresso and quit cigs (so im not running up to the corner store every morn). But 3 yrs ago me is deeply offended.

[notin]

2 hours ago, drewski6 said:

I love doritos and diet dr pepper, although i dont usually drink caffinated beverages past noon, and very rarely eat doritos before noon.  And my diet dr pepper drinking has gone down since i got my nespresso and quit cigs (so im not running up to the corner store every morn). But 3 yrs ago me is deeply offended.

Clutch those pearls with anger!!!

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Vlad Jr could be a panda in a couple years.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Just now, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Vlad Jr could be a panda in a couple years.

You're supposed to lose weight during the season.

[d-money]

Nm. 

[moonslav59]

DET lost again. Maybe HOU can sneak in by just losing a little less than DET does in the next 4 days.

[drewski6]

13 hours ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Vlad Jr could be a panda in a couple years.

vlad jr is crazy athletic and has surprising wheels. 

[drewski6]

13 hours ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

You're supposed to lose weight during the season.

Thats certainly true.  I mean, youre supposed to lose weight in summer time.  Certainly arent going to lose weight during fall/winter with thanksgiving/Christmas and more time indoors