Red Sox (May) vs Yankees (Rodon): 8/24/25, 7:10pm

[Brandon Glick]

A sweep on Sunday Night Baseball? To embarrass the Yankees on a national stage? And take further control of the AL Wild Card race?

Dustin May, don't fail us now.

[moonslav59]

I project this line-up:

1. R Romy 1B (Lowe sucks vs LHPs)

2. R Bregman 3B (Cora loves him at #2. I might go Anthony 2 & Bregman 4.)

3. L Anthony LF (Our new Yankee killer)

4. R Story SS (Has done well, this year)

5. R Garcia RF (Breakin-breakout game, tonight!)

6. L Duran CF (maybe Cora gives him a day off: insert Yoshida 6th.)

7. R Rafaela 2B (DHam cannot start v a lefty.)

8. L Yoshida DH (It's what Cora does, although demoting to the 8th slot would be new.)

9. R Narvaez C (Heating back up?)

[Maxbialystock]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

I project this line-up:

1. R Romy 1B (Lowe sucks vs LHPs)

2. R Bregman 3B (Cora loves him at #2. I might go Anthony 2 & Bregman 4.)

3. L Anthony LF (Our new Yankee killer)

4. R Story SS (Has done well, this year)

5. R Garcia RF (Breakin-breakout game, tonight!)

6. L Duran CF (maybe Cora gives him a day off: insert Yoshida 6th.)

7. R Rafaela 2B (DHam cannot start v a lefty.)

8. L Yoshida DH (It's what Cora does, although demoting to the 8th slot would be new.)

9. R Narvaez C (Heating back up?)

Mine's cl;ose. 

I want Narvaez because he caught both of May's good starts.  I want 3 lefty bats on general principles--Anthony, Duran, and Hamilton.  I want guys who faced Rodon in June--Duran, Narvaez. Gonzalez, Story, Rafaela, and Anthony.   I don't want Yoshida.  I don't want back to back lefty bats.   I want a good freaking defense with Rafaela in CF and  Hamilton at 2B.  Garcia gets another shot against a lefty starter.  No way do I want Gonzalez leading off.  I'm going with unquestionably the Sox 3 best hitters right now in the top 3 slots.   Anthony leading off looks crazy but it might get him the extra at bat.   Plus he's been there, done that.   I don't much like my middle three but think the last three could surprise.

Anthony DH

Bregman 3B

Story SS

Gonzalez 1B

Narvaez  C

Duran LF

Rafaela CF

Hamilton 2b 

Garcia RF

 

[moonslav59]

2 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

Mine's cl;ose. 

I want Narvaez because he caught both of May's good starts.  I want 3 lefty bats on general principles--Anthony, Duran, and Hamilton.  I want guys who faced Rodon in June--Duran, Narvaez. Gonzalez, Story, Rafaela, and Anthony.   I don't want Yoshida.  I want a good freaking defense with Rafaela in CF and  Hamilton at 2B.  Garcia gets another shot against a lefty starter.  No way do I want Gonzalez leading off.  I'm going with unquestionably the Sox 3 best hitters right now in the top 3 slots.   Anthony leading off looks crazy but it might get him the extra at bat.   Plus he's been there, done that.  

Anthony DH

Bregman 3B

Story SS

Gonzalez 1B

Narvaez  C

Duran LF

Rafaela CF

Garcia RF

Hamilton 2b 

 

Mine was a projection not my choice.

Romy is a lefty killer. I'd lead him off, despite his trailing off a little.

DHam sucks at the plate, especially v lefties. Rafaela is better, overall and at 2B, he allows all the OF'ers to bat, even Duran who sucks vs LHPs, this year and for all but 2024.

My choice:

R Romy 1B

L Anthony LF

R Story SS

R Bregman 3B

R Garcia RF

L Duran CF

R Narvaez C

R Rafaela 2B

R Eaton DH

Save the LHBs (Lowe & Yoshida) for PH opportunities.

[Maxbialystock]

3 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Mine was a projection not my choice.

Romy is a lefty killer. I'd lead him off, despite his trailing off a little.

DHam sucks at the plate, especially v lefties. Rafaela is better, overall and at 2B, he allows all the OF'ers to bat, even Duran who sucks vs LHPs, this year and for all but 2024.

My choice:

R Romy 1B

L Anthony LF

R Story SS

R Bregman 3B

R Garcia RF

L Duran CF

R Narvaez C

R Rafaela 2B

R Eaton DH

Save the LHBs (Lowe & Yoshida) for PH opportunities.

We seriously disagree about Hamilton vs Eaton.  With Hamilton we know we get good defense and possibly good baserunning.  Eaton as DH is a joke.  

I'm fine with the rest of your lineup.  

[Nick]

Any day Yoshida is not in the lineup is a good day for me. 

I'm in a good place.

Even though Bres 'lucked into' obtaining a real 1B. 

Bullpen needs more reinforcement. 

The floodgate has opened. Bring up more prospects. See what they got. I know what we have in Buehler. Can do better.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

13 minutes ago, Nick said:

Any day Yoshida is not in the lineup is a good day for me. 

I'm in a good place.

Even though Bres 'lucked into' obtaining a real 1B. 

Bullpen needs more reinforcement. 

The floodgate has opened. Bring up more prospects. See what they got. I know what we have in Buehler. Can do better.

The dislike for Masa is unbelievable. Instead of hating on him why don't you hate on the A-hole who signed him?

[Maxbialystock]

39 minutes ago, Nick said:

Any day Yoshida is not in the lineup is a good day for me. 

I'm in a good place.

Even though Bres 'lucked into' obtaining a real 1B. 

Bullpen needs more reinforcement. 

The floodgate has opened. Bring up more prospects. See what they got. I know what we have in Buehler. Can do better.

Agree on most.  I think Buehler's in the bullpen now.  

I do not see an open floodgate for prospects unless you mean a 5th starter.  

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Mine was a projection not my choice.

Romy is a lefty killer. I'd lead him off, despite his trailing off a little.

DHam sucks at the plate, especially v lefties. Rafaela is better, overall and at 2B, he allows all the OF'ers to bat, even Duran who sucks vs LHPs, this year and for all but 2024.

My choice:

R Romy 1B

L Anthony LF

R Story SS

R Bregman 3B

R Garcia RF

L Duran CF

R Narvaez C

R Rafaela 2B

R Eaton DH

Save the LHBs (Lowe & Yoshida) for PH opportunities.

Cedanne is down to .714 OPS and sinking fast. In his last 16 games in 61 PA he is batting .127/.395. One could have guessed that his lack of plate discipline would bite him as the season wore on and he got more and more tired, like all of them.

His contribution is defense and he is best in CF. I think that is where he should play every day he is in the lineup. Cora has to deal with 2B some other way.

[Maxbialystock]

1 hour ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

The dislike for Masa is unbelievable. Instead of hating on him why don't you hate on the A-hole who signed him?

Thanks.  I needed that.  I don't hate Yoshida, who seems like a pretty good guy.  And I don't expect him to speak any more English than I speak Japanese.  

Practically speaking however, he is a liability in the outfield, especially with Garcia on the team and Abreu and Ref due back this week. 

Yoshida's OPS is .643 (.650 vs righties!!), which is pretty low for a DH.  When Abreu and Ref return this week, I see Ref as DH vs lefties and one of Duran, Abreu, or Anthony as DH vs righties.  I also see absolutely no need to have Rafaela play 2b.  

FWIW, I also don't hate Chaim Bloom.  He was new at the job and had an owner who was determined to bring the payroll down. 

Funny thing, but Yoshida wasn't half bad his first season with 140 games, 537 at bats, 15 dingers, 72 rbi's, and an OPS of .783.   108 games and an OPS of .765 his 2d year wasn't awful.  This year he has bombed, very probably because of the layoff.  

[Hitch]

1 hour ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

The dislike for Masa is unbelievable. Instead of hating on him why don't you hate on the A-hole who signed him?

I don't dislike Masa as a person. I dislike that we signed him. I dislike him playing on this team. 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Masa plays the game of baseball with respect. He always runs hard to first base. Makes few mental errors and catches all fly balls he can get to. The dislike he gets here is uncalled for.

Finally, if I had a son whose dream was to play a major sport, I would love him to mirror Masa's respect and intensity for the sport.

Anyway, that's my take on it.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

2 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Masa plays the game of baseball with respect. He always runs hard to first base. Makes few mental errors and catches all fly balls he can get to. The dislike he gets here is uncalled for.

Finally, if I had a son whose dream was to play a major sport, I would love him to mirror Masa's respect and intensity for the sport.

Anyway, that's my take on it.

I still believe he will significantly contribute offensively before this season's over.

[moonslav59]

48 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

Cedanne is down to .714 OPS and sinking fast. In his last 16 games in 61 PA he is batting .127/.395. One could have guessed that his lack of plate discipline would bite him as the season wore on and he got more and more tired, like all of them.

His contribution is defense and he is best in CF. I think that is where he should play every day he is in the lineup. Cora has to deal with 2B some other way.

One could also "guess" his streaky up and down season might have 1 or 2 more up streaks left in 2025, if one were inclined to project his MO going forward, and not just his last 10 games or what he did to end the last seasons.

He's young and in excellent shape. I do not think he is wearing down. I do agree that his lack of plate discipline, although improving slightly will lead to continued slumps, but the kid has proven, over and over, that he can have some nice stretches of hitting well. He's even had some pretty long hitting stretches, but of course, one could use a microscope and find mini slumps within those "long stretches:"

2023: He started the season at .917 after 17 games and was still at .799 after 23. He sucked for the last 10 games, but his good stretch was longer than the bad one, despite both being tiny samples.

2024: .566 after his first 32 games, then .747 for the next 93 games, before ending at .477 the last 27 games. One could cherry pick the other way and say he ended the season with a .624 OPS over 61 games, but that long good stretch would still be about the same sample size. (.770 in 60 games)

2025: has been a roller coaster that could very well define who he is, and not the :guess that he will always end every season in a long slump. He was at .467 after 13 games, then .772 for 62 games, then .707 over the last 50 games, including .400 over his last 10 games. However, take away thos 10 games from the previous sample size and that .707 stretch turns into something okay: ,783. The best long stretch I could come up with via cherry picking is: .803 in 50 games from 6/11 to 8/11. Hell, throw out just his first 5 games and last 10, and you have a 109 game stretch of .766 batting. Why do you insist on defining him by smaller sample sizes of futility?

Why should we expect futility, when his whole career has smashed the norms for high K/ low BB players?

Also, he has improved, even if slightly.

2023-24: K% 27.1 (7th worst on Sox) and BB % 2.9 (worst w Arroyo at 3.4 & Romy & Wong at 5.6)

2025: K% 18.7 (3rd best on the team!!!) and BB% 4.7 (still worst but a 41% improvement over 2.9%. Toro is 2nd at 4.9 with Story at 5.2 and Romy at 5.4.)

Rafaela has closed the gap on his weakest areas: High K/Low BB rates. He may or not continue to improve, but you seem to always assume the worst.

His OBP improved from .275 over his first 660 PAs in MLB to .294 in 466 PAs, this year.

His SLG improved from .389 to .420.

His OPS+ from 84 to 96. He's still not at 100, but he's just 24.

 

 

 

[Hitch]

20 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Masa plays the game of baseball with respect. He always runs hard to first base. Makes few mental errors and catches all fly balls he can get to. The dislike he gets here is uncalled for.

Finally, if I had a son whose dream was to play a major sport, I would love him to mirror Masa's respect and intensity for the sport.

Anyway, that's my take on it.

The dislike is over his worth to the team, specifically as compares to his contract. I don't believe I've seen anyone say they dislike him on a personal level.

All athletes are judged by their worth to their team. It's a s***** way to look at any human (one need only look at the way people talk about Henry despite all the success he's brought the franchise) but that's sports.

I would like him off the team so the resources can be used elsewhere. That's it.

[moonslav59]

6 minutes ago, Hitch said:

The dislike is over his worth to the team, specifically as compares to his contract. I don't believe I've seen anyone say they dislike him on a personal level.

All athletes are judged by their worth to their team. It's a s***** way to look at any human (one need only look at the way people talk about Henry despite all the success he's brought the franchise) but that's sports.

I would like him off the team so the resources can be used elsewhere. That's it.

Agreed, and if he was hitting his career .795 mark, there would be little talk against him, this year.

I get that the guy was hurt. I don't fault him for that or his slow recovery/rehab or whatever it was/is, but we need better than .650 from the DH slot, when hitting has become one of our weaker (no weak) areas.

It's nothing personal. I was worse with Toro.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Jays lost.

[Maxbialystock]

15 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

One could also "guess" his streaky up and down season might have 1 or 2 more up streaks left in 2025, if one were inclined to project his MO going forward, and not just his last 10 games or what he did to end the last seasons.

He's young and in excellent shape. I do not think he is wearing down. I do agree that his lack of plate discipline, although improving slightly will lead to continued slumps, but the kid has proven, over and over, that he can have some nice stretches of hitting well. He's even had some pretty long hitting stretches, but of course, one could use a microscope and find mini slumps within those "long stretches:"

2023: He started the season at .917 after 17 games and was still at .799 after 23. He sucked for the last 10 games, but his good stretch was longer than the bad one, despite both being tiny samples.

2024: .566 after his first 32 games, then .747 for the next 93 games, before ending at .477 the last 27 games. One could cherry pick the other way and say he ended the season with a .624 OPS over 61 games, but that long good stretch would still be about the same sample size. (.770 in 60 games)

2025: has been a roller coaster that could very well define who he is, and not the :guess that he will always end every season in a long slump. He was at .467 after 13 games, then .772 for 62 games, then .707 over the last 50 games, including .400 over his last 10 games. However, take away thos 10 games from the previous sample size and that .707 stretch turns into something okay: ,783. The best long stretch I could come up with via cherry picking is: .803 in 50 games from 6/11 to 8/11. Hell, throw out just his first 5 games and last 10, and you have a 109 game stretch of .766 batting. Why do you insist on defining him by smaller sample sizes of futility?

Why should we expect futility, when his whole career has smashed the norms for high K/ low BB players?

Also, he has improved, even if slightly.

2023-24: K% 27.1 (7th worst on Sox) and BB % 2.9 (worst w Arroyo at 3.4 & Romy & Wong at 5.6)

2025: K% 18.7 (3rd best on the team!!!) and BB% 4.7 (still worst but a 41% improvement over 2.9%. Toro is 2nd at 4.9 with Story at 5.2 and Romy at 5.4.)

Rafaela has closed the gap on his weakest areas: High K/Low BB rates. He may or not continue to improve, but you seem to always assume the worst.

His OBP improved from .275 over his first 660 PAs in MLB to .294 in 466 PAs, this year.

His SLG improved from .389 to .420.

His OPS+ from 84 to 96. He's still not at 100, but he's just 24.

 

 

 

Rafaela is pretty near the ideal centerfielder and his WAR is 3.6, 3d best on the Sox.  His OPS. 714 and apparently dropping, is acceptable to me.  It is .517 this month compared to .852 in July, ,870 in June, .698 in May and .682 in April. So I think this month is the outlier, maybe because of playing 2b.  

His 22 BB vs 87 K's are actually a big improvement over his first 2 seasons when he had 19 BB's vs 179 K's.  

[Nick]

I don't dislike any professional athlete as a person. I just think Yoshida's usefulness is behind him.

I rather watch Refsnyder and Gonzalez as a DH or Anthony for that matter. Yoshida has no place in this lineup.

For me, this team is turning into a group of athletes. Unless you can bring power into the equation, and no athleticism, then you should be dropped.

[Maxbialystock]

12 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Agreed, and if he was hitting his career .795 mark, there would be little talk against him, this year.

I get that the guy was hurt. I don't fault him for that or his slow recovery/rehab or whatever it was/is, but we need better than .650 from the DH slot, when hitting has become one of our weaker (no weak) areas.

It's nothing personal. I was worse with Toro.

Of course it's not personal.  A DH must above all else produce at the plate.  I do understand that his has been a short season, which might explain the lower OPS.

But guess what?  The Sox have just 32 games left out of a 162 game season and are very definitely in the hunt for the postseason.  Now is not the time to be patient with a DH who isn't getting the job done.

That especially applies when Abreu and Ref returning this week.  

[moonslav59]

MIA beat TOR.

BAL beat HOU.

KCR just beat DET, so all 3 teams ahead of us have lost. KCR are the closest to ousting a WC leader, so winning tonight will help us stay the same with them, and push the NYY closer to elimination.

AL Records, with the Sox-Yanks still to go:

78-54 DET

76-55 TOR

72-59 HOU

71-59 BOS (We can tie HOU with a win.)

69-60 NYY (Can be tied with SEA with a loss and SEA win.)

69-61 SEA (up 2-1 early)

67-64 KCR (-2.5 from SEA and NYY before their games are completed.)

64-64 CLE (losing 4-0 in the 6th)

[moonslav59]

5 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

Of course it's not personal.  A DH must above all else produce at the plate.  I do understand that his has been a short season, which might explain the lower OPS.

But guess what?  The Sox have just 32 games left out of a 162 game season and are very definitely in the hunt for the postseason.  Now is not the time to be patient with a DH who isn't getting the job done.

That especially applies when Abreu and Ref returning this week.  

Agreed, but look at the Sox player's OPS vs RHPs:

1.285 Lowe 1B

.897 Bregman 3B

.892 Anthony OF

.881 Duran OF

.828 Abreu OF

.728 Story SS

.718 Rafaela 2B v RHPs, but he could play CF and DH an OF'er, but then we have Romy or DHam at 2B.

.676 Romy 2B or DH? (see Rafaela)

.650 Yoshida DH

.646 Refsnyder DH/OF (should not start v R)

,556 DHam 2B only

The only real options to benching Yoshida vs RHPs involves 2B (Rafaela, DHam/Romy) or the OF (Rafaela to CF and an OF;er to DH) or just DH Romy and go with Rafaela at 2B, because we won't bench a LHB OF'er vs a R.

So, it's basically...

Yoshida .650 v Romy .676 at DH v R 

or

Yoshida v DHam .556 (better D at 2B and CF w an OF'er at DH.)

There is no clearly better batter vs RHPs to take his place. On paper, Romy looks better, but...

last 14 days:

1.350 DHam

.520 Yoshida

.456 Romy

.422 Rafaela

Last 28 days

.812 DHam

.778 Romy

.677 Yoshida

.518 Rafaela If you go by recent O, alone, maybe Yoshida> Rafaela, w DHam at 2B or maybe Romy at DH..)

 

[Jasonbay44]

I don’t criticize Cora that often but I don’t get the obsession with batting Nate Eaton high. He hasn’t done much at all to warrant a high spot in the order 

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

One could also "guess" his streaky up and down season might have 1 or 2 more up streaks left in 2025, if one were inclined to project his MO going forward, and not just his last 10 games or what he did to end the last seasons.

He's young and in excellent shape. I do not think he is wearing down. I do agree that his lack of plate discipline, although improving slightly will lead to continued slumps, but the kid has proven, over and over, that he can have some nice stretches of hitting well. He's even had some pretty long hitting stretches, but of course, one could use a microscope and find mini slumps within those "long stretches:"

2023: He started the season at .917 after 17 games and was still at .799 after 23. He sucked for the last 10 games, but his good stretch was longer than the bad one, despite both being tiny samples.

2024: .566 after his first 32 games, then .747 for the next 93 games, before ending at .477 the last 27 games. One could cherry pick the other way and say he ended the season with a .624 OPS over 61 games, but that long good stretch would still be about the same sample size. (.770 in 60 games)

2025: has been a roller coaster that could very well define who he is, and not the :guess that he will always end every season in a long slump. He was at .467 after 13 games, then .772 for 62 games, then .707 over the last 50 games, including .400 over his last 10 games. However, take away thos 10 games from the previous sample size and that .707 stretch turns into something okay: ,783. The best long stretch I could come up with via cherry picking is: .803 in 50 games from 6/11 to 8/11. Hell, throw out just his first 5 games and last 10, and you have a 109 game stretch of .766 batting. Why do you insist on defining him by smaller sample sizes of futility?

Why should we expect futility, when his whole career has smashed the norms for high K/ low BB players?

Also, he has improved, even if slightly.

2023-24: K% 27.1 (7th worst on Sox) and BB % 2.9 (worst w Arroyo at 3.4 & Romy & Wong at 5.6)

2025: K% 18.7 (3rd best on the team!!!) and BB% 4.7 (still worst but a 41% improvement over 2.9%. Toro is 2nd at 4.9 with Story at 5.2 and Romy at 5.4.)

Rafaela has closed the gap on his weakest areas: High K/Low BB rates. He may or not continue to improve, but you seem to always assume the worst.

His OBP improved from .275 over his first 660 PAs in MLB to .294 in 466 PAs, this year.

His SLG improved from .389 to .420.

His OPS+ from 84 to 96. He's still not at 100, but he's just 24.

 

 

 

His fatal flaw is lack of plate discipline. I don’t see that changing. I said earlier I thought he’d hit about .720-.740 by the end of the year and he’s already below that. There has to be a level at which it’s not worth having him in the lineup. We don’t need another JBJ unless there are no other black holes. My level is .720. Where’s yours?

[moonslav59]

15 minutes ago, Jasonbay44 said:

I don’t criticize Cora that often but I don’t get the obsession with batting Nate Eaton high. He hasn’t done much at all to warrant a high spot in the order 

I had Jh Garcia higher, but maybe he wanted to take some pressure off him. Cora went with a RRL-RRL-RRR pattern.

Watch Eaton be the hero and shut us both up.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

3 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

His fatal flaw is lack of plate discipline. I don’t see that changing. I said earlier I thought he’d hit about .720-.740 by the end of the year and he’s already below that. There has to be a level at which it’s not worth having him in the lineup. We don’t need another JBJ unless there are no other black holes. My level is .720. Where’s yours?

I can't help but wonder how many runs Rafaela has prevented defensively. However, in some people's minds de fence is something that is found around the yard.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

How sweep it would be if the Sox win tonight, but the worst case scenario would be 3-1 in this series. That's nothing to be sad about.

That being said let's sweep these A-holes.

[moonslav59]

7 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

His fatal flaw is lack of plate discipline. I don’t see that changing. I said earlier I thought he’d hit about .720-.740 by the end of the year and he’s already below that. There has to be a level at which it’s not worth having him in the lineup. We don’t need another JBJ unless there are no other black holes. My level is .720. Where’s yours?

But he has changed it, and is just 24.

When the league OPS is about .719, why would .720 w GG defense and plus baserunning be the cut off or called a "black hole."

I was a JBJ fan, so I guess we'll never come to a compromise, but average offense, great D and plus running is not a bad thing.

I get the idea of wanting more than mediocre or slightly above mediocre, but I just do not think Rafaela is even close to our weakest link. At 24, I also see a chance to get better, as most players do as they reach 25-29. I also see the whole league moving towards higher K rates, lower OBPs and not-so-great D or running skills.

There should be some context. I guess WAR does not carry much weight with you, but even if you think it is flawed and gives too much value to defense and running, you have to think it is very wrong to not notice how he ranks with other Sox players and MLB CF'ers. His WAR would be even higher, if they kept him in CF every game played.

He has the 3rd best fWAR in MLB in CF. He's -0.7 at 2B. Do the math.

You ask how low I would go, and I'd say .650 to .675, as long as the league OPS stays around .720. BTW, MLB CF'ers have a .682 OPS, this year.

There are 29 CF'ers with 180+ PAs in CF. The 15th highest OPS is .720. You think average sucks. It may not be great, but it doesn't suck, when your D is great at a difficult position. (BTW, Rafaela is batting .790 as a CF'er, but I'm going to claim he will hit that as a FT CF'er.) 7 of the top 30 OF'ers by PAs are batting under .675. There is some context.

[moonslav59]

12 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

I can't help but wonder how many runs Rafaela has prevented defensively. However, in some people's minds de fence is something that is found around the yard.

Fangraphs says 16 runs saved and 16 Outs Above Average in just 907 innings. He might be at 20 had he played CF full time.

If you count those as RBIs, he'd be second on the team in RBIs. If you counted them as runs scored, he'd be our runs leader by a lot.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Just now, moonslav59 said:

Fangraphs say 16 runs saved and 16 Outs Above Average in just 907 innings. He might be at 20 had he played CF full time.

If you count those as RBIs, he'd be second on the team in RBIs. If you counted them as runs scored, he'd be our runs leader by a lot.

Moon, you're the real Stats Masterson.