6/29 Jays vs Sox

[illinoisredsox]

IMO, if they choose to keep him, Buehler should be relegated to the long relief role Newcomb had early on.  He only comes in if the starter has a bad day and it doesn’t really matter if he does well or not.

[Jasonbay44]

Kelly is another guy I wouldn’t be sad at all to see go 

[Maxbialystock]

2 minutes ago, Jasonbay44 said:

There is nothing more infuriating than watching a guy who isn’t just bad, but bad because he won’t throw strikes. 

Command is part of it, I agree.  But in his case too many of his strikes can get hit hard.  No question he was a vast overpay by Breslow, a former MLB pitcher for 10 years.  

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

One thing Sox players have been great at for the last few years is going on the IL.

[Maxbialystock]

2 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

IMO, if they choose to keep him, Buehler should be relegated to the long relief role Newcomb had early on.  He only comes in if the starter has a bad day and it doesn’t really matter if he does well or not.

Keep him at $21.5M?  

[illinoisredsox]

Just now, Jasonbay44 said:

Kelly is another guy I wouldn’t be sad at all to see go 

Yeah, he doesn’t even offer potential long relief to eat up innings that Buehler does.

And I’m not advocating keeping Walker.

[Maxbialystock]

Just now, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

One thing Sox players have been great at for the last few years is going on the IL.

 

Just now, illinoisredsox said:

Yeah, he doesn’t even offer potential long relief to eat up innings that Buehler does.

And I’m not advocating keeping Walker.

Given what we've seen this season, I would label Buehler as the worst possible choice to pitch multiple innings.  

[illinoisredsox]

Just now, Maxbialystock said:

Keep him at $21.5M?  

Sox are going to pay him one way or another.  If they release him, someone probably takes a shot on him for the prorated portion of the MLB minimum.

[Jasonbay44]

4 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

Command is part of it, I agree.  But in his case too many of his strikes can get hit hard.  No question he was a vast overpay by Breslow, a former MLB pitcher for 10 years.  

I think he might just be washed. He was very good before injuries but he just doesn’t have it anymore.

[Jasonbay44]

Just now, illinoisredsox said:

Sox are going to pay him one way or another.  If they release him, someone probably takes a shot on him for the prorated portion of the MLB minimum.

He’ll probably end up back in LA and somehow become a competent pitcher again. 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

3 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

One thing Sox players have been great at for the last few years is going on the IL.

And staying on the IL as long as possible.

[illinoisredsox]

1 minute ago, Maxbialystock said:

 

Given what we've seen this season, I would label Buehler as the worst possible choice to pitch multiple innings.  

That’s why he only gets used in games where you fall well behind early and you don’t really care if he gets hit so long as he can save the rest of the pen some innings.

[FredLynn]

Three times in a week the Flops have walked 8 guys???

Really??

[FredLynn]

Knew the game was over at 2-0

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Buehler is the opening act for Kelly.

[FredLynn]

2 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

And staying on the IL as long as possible.

Can you blame them? Who in their right mind would want to be part of this train wreck? I’d want to stay home too.

[illinoisredsox]

They just posted Houck’s rehab stats today; they were ugly again.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Just now, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Buehler is the opening act for Kelly.

Similar to Cora being the opening act for Bobby Valentine.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Just now, illinoisredsox said:

They just posted Houck’s rehab stats today; they were ugly again.

Houck, like Duran, had career seasons last year.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Just now, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Houck, like Duran, had career seasons last year.

Also referred to as anomalies.

[illinoisredsox]

4 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Houck, like Duran, had career seasons last year.

Houck had a career half season.  He was pretty bad after the ASB.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Add base running as another thing the Sox suck at .

[illinoisredsox]

5 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Add base running as another thing the Sox suck at .

I’ll give Romy a break on that one; from field level, it had to have looked like the LF had caught it and he had to get back.

(And now thanks to the Jays catcher, it ended up exactly the way it would have).

Edit - and in true Sox fashion, don’t take advantage of it.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Vlad got impaled on that throw.

[Tedballgame]

Bad base running by Romy and terrible AB by Wilyet cost the Sox two runs

[FredLynn]

The Flops just blew their last chance to tie the game. 
The Jays will now add on, though the result was decided in the first half inning.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Missed opportunity. AGAIN 

Most of this disgusting season has been defined by Missed Opportunities.

[Tedballgame]

20 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

They just posted Houck’s rehab stats today; they were ugly again.

He should only pitch in long relief until he gets his act together 

[Tedballgame]

3 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Missed opportunity. AGAIN 

Most of this disgusting season has been defined by Missed Opportunities.

 

3 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Missed opportunity. AGAIN 

Most of this disgusting season has been defined by Missed Opportunities.

They are a terrible situational hitting team. They also strike out way too much. I have to think the hitting coaches are going to be fired.

[FredLynn]

Just now, Tedballgame said:

 

They are a terrible situational hitting team. They also strike out way too much. I have to think the hitting coaches are going to be fired.

The entire management team from the GM on down needs to be fired. A complete flush. 
It’s the only way