Red Sox (Giolito) vs Mariners (Gilbert): 6/16/25, 9:40pm

[Maxbialystock]

12 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

For once, we started a season with rotation depth. This year, we have really needed it. We even ended up giving Newcomb a shot, since we had so many guys out at once.

We are doing this without our best pitcher, last year (Houck).

We are doing this with zero IP from our IP leader, last year (Crawford.)

We are doing this with our highest AAV given to a SP'er since Sale (Buehler) having an ERA north of 5.

We are doing this without Pivetta, who was our rock for several years.

We haven't even started our best rotation depth pitchers from 2024 (Criswell) at all, this year. (Criswell had a 3.49 ERA in 18 GS in '24.)

Crochet was a major get.

Bello is finally coming into his own.

Dobbins came out of nowhere.

Gio has had 3 really nice starts in his last 5 starts, and one was pretty good- the one where he was yanked with 2 outs in the 5th.

All we need is Buehler, Houck, Crawford or Sandoval to give us a boost from the 5 slot, and of course, continued good pitching from the 4 guys listed above.

 

Terrific narrative!!  The players should get all the credit, but I would also give some to Cora, the pitching coach, and even Breslow.  I do not think this is blind stupid luck.  

[moonslav59]

4 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

Terrific narrative!!  The players should get all the credit, but I would also give some to Cora, the pitching coach, and even Breslow.  I do not think this is blind stupid luck.  

How many years have we looked at the deadline as a chance to find a solid SP'er to fill a big hole? We all know how costly deadline deals are. Look at last year's Kikuchi deal cost the Astros. Brez finally did the proactive thing, no other GM has done in many years.

Crochet, Houck, Buehler, Bello, Crawford, Giolito, Sandoval, Criswell, Fitts, Priester, Newcomb and then secondary choices like Whitlock, Winckowski, Murphy and others. (We traded away Priester and DFA'd Newcomb, but we still had over 10 decent choices.)

[notin]

30 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

How many years have we looked at the deadline as a chance to find a solid SP'er to fill a big hole? We all know how costly deadline deals are. Look at last year's Kikuchi deal cost the Astros. Brez finally did the proactive thing, no other GM has done in many years.

Crochet, Houck, Buehler, Bello, Crawford, Giolito, Sandoval, Criswell, Fitts, Priester, Newcomb and then secondary choices like Whitlock, Winckowski, Murphy and others. (We traded away Priester and DFA'd Newcomb, but we still had over 10 decent choices.)

I’m ok with replacing Priester with Harrison 

[moonslav59]

13 minutes ago, notin said:

I’m ok with replacing Priester with Harrison 

Good way to look at it.

Soxprospects.com says they'd have Harrison as their top pitching prospect, had he not graduated. Better than Perales, Tolle, Clarke and Valera might not eb saying all that much, but that is better than Priester and Fitts.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

15 minutes ago, notin said:

I’m ok with replacing Priester with Harrison 

I'm going to admit right now that a year ago, the southpaw Kyle Harrison was high on my list for starting pitcher candidates with potential to trade for. 

This was when Bailey was Boston's new magic pitching coach, and I assumed he had some familiarity with Harrison from his SF days. Plus, Harrison had the rep for being tough on lefties -- a commodity the Sox were lacking pre-Crochet... 

We can always use another one.