8/09 Astros @ SOX 7:10PM ET

[moonslav59]

Just finished watching the game on delay. That was painful. Another winnable game lost.

 

At least Houck looked real good... maybe something to build on.

 

We had many chances to bust open a crooked number, and even the "right guys" up, but kept coming up short.

 

Oh well, get 'em, tomorrow!

[Duran Is The Man]

Twins win, as noted by Moon, and KC leading Cardinals in the 7th. This could be the beginning of the end .

 

yeah...i want this team in the playoffs as bad as anyone, but anyone that thinks they'll make the playoffs the way they've been playing since the ASB is delusional.

[moonslav59]

yeah...i want this team in the playoffs as bad as anyone, but anyone that thinks they'll make the playoffs the way they've been playing since the ASB is delusional.

 

Of course, if we keep "playing like this" nobody should think we are odds on to make the playoffs, but why assume we do? This team has been up and down, all year. To think we have to keep playing badly is just as delusional, right?

[Duran Is The Man]

Of course, if we keep "playing like this" nobody should think we are odds on to make the playoffs, but why assume we do? This team has been up and down, all year. To think we have to keep playing badly is just as delusional, right?

 

not necessarily. the bullpen is done and i don't see them getting better. they're giving up 7.1 runs per game since the ASB.

[moonslav59]

not necessarily. the bullpen is done and i don't see them getting better. they're giving up 7.1 runs per game since the ASB.

 

Again, you assume there is no chance for a turnaround, while this team has turned it around countless times, already, this year.

 

Garcia and Simms were added, and had some bad games, since joining, but why assume they have to keep being bad?

 

Jansen was written off by many, here, when he had a meltdown stretch months ago, then he bounced back. Are you saying it's impossible for him to work off his last good outing and be strong for 7 more weeks? No way Martin can do well? Zero chance? No way Slaten can come back?

 

Look, I'm not seeing signs for a resurgence, either, but the norm of this team is to bounce back. While true, the pitching woes have been a steady decline, it's not impossible to imagine a few guys getting their s*** back together. Houck and Jansen might have already begun the turnaround- maybe others follow.

 

Do you really think teams are doomed to keep repeating their last month's numbers over and over?

 

Of course, if we keep allowing 7.1 runs a game for the next 7 weeks, we'll be toast, but I think it is equally delusional to think that happens as it is to think we go back to a sub 3 ERA the rest of the way. More likely, we go about 4.25 to 4.75 and if our hitting continues doing well, we'd have a shot.

 

Also, are KCR and HOU/SEA looking all that great, right now? We just need to do better than 1 or 2 of those teams to make it.

Edited August 10, 2024 by moonslav59

[Duran Is The Man]

Again, you assume there is no chance for a turnaround, while this team has turned it around countless times, already, this year.

 

Garcia and Simms were added, and had some bad games, since joining, but what assume they have to keep being bad?

 

Jansen was written off by many, here, when he had a meltdown stretch months ago, then he bounced back. Are you saying it's impossible for him to work off his last good outing and be strong for 7 more weeks? No way Martin can do well? Zero chance? No way Slaten can come back?

 

Look, I'm not seeing signs for a resurgence, either, but the norm of this team is to bounce back. While true, the pitching woes have been a steady decline, it's not impossible to imagine a few guys getting their s*** back together. Houck and Jansen might have already begun the turnaround- maybe others follow.

 

Do you really think teams are doomed to keep repeating their last month's numbers over and over?

 

Of course, if we keep allowing 7.1 runs a game for the next 7 weeks, we'll be toast, but I think it is equally delusional to think that happens as it is to think we go back to a sub 3 ERA the rest of the way. More likely, we go about 4.25 to 4.75 and if our hitting continues doing well, we'd have a shot.

 

Also, are KCR and HOU/SEA looking all that great, right now? We just need to do better than 1 or 2 of those teams to make it.

 

i hope you're right, but i just don't see it happening. they've played like dog doo since the ASB and i just don't see them gaining enough ground to make the playoffs. had the idiots in Henry's FO not dealt the front runner for the NL Cy Young for a light-hitting AAA 2B, we'd be headed for the playoffs.

[Bellhorn04]

And again, the reasons behind trading Sale made some sense in isolation. But when they had no plans to add much to the rotation, it was a stupid thing to do.

[moonslav59]

i hope you're right, but i just don't see it happening. they've played like dog doo since the ASB and i just don't see them gaining enough ground to make the playoffs. had the idiots in Henry's FO not dealt the front runner for the NL Cy Young for a light-hitting AAA 2B, we'd be headed for the playoffs.

 

I'm not predicting a turnaround, so I can't be right or wrong on this. I'm just saying it is very rare when a team repeats it's last months' numbers over and over again, with no change- and this team has been up and down in all areas, numerous times. It's not a long shot chance we turn to the good with out pitching.

[Duran Is The Man]

I'm not predicting a turnaround, so I can't be right or wrong on this. I'm just saying it is very rare when a team repeats it's last months' numbers over and over again, with no change- and this team has been up and down in all areas, numerous times. It's not a long shot chance we turn to the good with out pitching.

 

the pitching staff finally turned into the pumpkin we all thought it would at the beginning of the season, despite Bailey's best efforts, i think the magic has worn off.

[moonslav59]

the pitching staff finally turned into the pumpkin we all thought it would at the beginning of the season, despite Bailey's best efforts, i think the magic has worn off.

 

As bad as we all thought the staff would be, nobody thought 6.10 bad.

 

I do not project we finish the season with a 6.10 ERA.

 

5.10, maybe, and that would probably leave us out of the dance.

 

4.60 seems possible and might be enough to squeak us in, assuming our O keeps going strong.

 

I'm not sure this staff is capable of pitching 4.10 or better, over the last 7 weeks, but we do have some new additions and returning IL players on or about to be on the 13 man staff. Houck, Jansen and Wink are showing signs of doing better. It's not impossible to imagine a staff that can finish somewhere between 4.10 and 4.60. Maybe not probable, I agree, but certainly not out of the question.

 

Nobody expected the staff to be under 3.00 in April, either. Weird things happen in baseball, all the time.