6/18 Red Sox in Toronto, while Celtics Celebrate

[vegasbob]

Key game in this series with Tanner Houck looking to impose his will on the Jays . His opposing pitcher is C. Bass(itt) , who has a mixed record ( 6-6) ; 3.56 ERA; 1.40 WHIP) but is a large fellow at 6'-5" . 35 year old RH'er who has been much sharper in his last 7 outings. Red Sox can take the series with another win behind their best pitcher.

 

New England sports adds its 13th major professional title in the 21st century , so here's to the Champions all. As the fans say, no time for losers !

Edited June 18, 2024 by vegasbob

[mvp 78]

Bassitt's last 5 games:

30 IP

1.20 ERA

2.45 FIP

[vegasbob]

Bassitt's last 5 games:

30 IP

1.20 ERA

2.45 FIP

 

MVP, your recency bias distorts the long picture on Mr. Bassitt. Why would those last 5 starts have any more bearing on tonight's probabilities than , say, his MiLB record in 2013. All said facetiously of course, but the quantity of electrons that get used on this site to justify the current abilities of certain players always amazes me.

 

For example, Trevor Story or Vaughn Grissom, what have you guys done for this team in, say 2024, which if my research is correct is the season we are currently competing in ?

Edited June 18, 2024 by vegasbob

[Dipre]

MVP, your recency bias distorts the long picture on Mr. Bassitt. Why would those last 5 starts have any more bearing on tonight's probabilities than , say, his MiLB record in 2013. All said facetiously of course, but the quantity of electrons that get used on this site to justify the current abilities of certain players always amazes me.

 

For example, Trevor Story or Vaughn Grissom, what have you guys done for this team in, say 2024, which if my research is correct is the season we are currently competing in ?

 

The same number of electrons used to try to deny the fact that the best indicator of future performance is past performance? By this logic, the Yankees should have cut Aaron Judge after his slow start.

[Oscars]

Refreshing to listen to Celtics owner Wyc talking like a fan this morning, and love his all in approach to the team.

A sharp contrast with 2024 John Henry

[vegasbob]

The same number of electrons used to try to deny the fact that the best indicator of future performance is past performance? By this logic, the Yankees should have cut Aaron Judge after his slow start.

 

I think you are an attorney. Have you never read the disclaimer on every investment prospectus ? Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Actually most players go through 3-5 years of declining abilities after reaching 30 years old. It's only the rare ones who continue or actually improve on their career stats. Forunately, Boston is reloading with younger talent and may have a sustainable core for the next 5 years, sort of like a nuclear reactor.

[Dipre]

I think you are an attorney. Have you never read the disclaimer on every investment prospectus ? Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Actually most players go through 3-5 years of declining abilities after reaching 30 years old. It's only the rare ones who continue or actually improve on their career stats. Forunately, Boston is reloading with younger talent and may have a sustainable core for the next 5 years, sort of like a nuclear reactor.

 

Nothing is ever guaranteed on absolutely anything in life, except for the fact that we're all going to die. But in baseball (and this is a baseball related discussion), barring physical decline due to age (inevitable), skill erosion, or life-altering injury, the best way to predict a player's future performance is past performance. There are exceptions, like a pitcher altering his repertoire, or a player altering his swing, but there are decades of both qualitative and quantitative data to support this fact. Nothing is guaranteed, but you need to have a baseline to evaluate MLB talent, and that is it.

 

Agreed with the point that they are doing the lord's work with establishing their next core, but their inability (hopefully past) to identify worthwhile veteran additions is what's worrisome, and the crux of my argument.

[vegasbob]

Meanwhile, this is a snoozer of a game in Toronto. Red Sox offense is not sharp, and Tanner had one bad inning to give up the lead.

 

Odd to say , but they are missing Hamilton, and Duran is K'ing .

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The White Sox SS Paul DeJong is available for a trade. This is his final year on his contract that pays him $1,750,000. Should the SOX go after him?

[moonslav59]

Yoshi Whahhh?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Masa comes thru.

[Oscars]

Even the blind squirrel finds the odd acorn.

[illinoisredsox]

The White Sox SS Paul DeJong is available for a trade. This is his final year on his contract that pays him $1,750,000. Should the SOX go after him?

 

Kick the tires, sure. But the Psle Hose aren’t going to give him away.

 

With Mookie out for a couple months, the Dodgers are in need of a ss; they can probably come up with a better offer.

[moonslav59]

How many errors are just simple dropped balls or flubs as they go to throw?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

How many errors are just simple dropped balls or flubs as they go to throw?

 

Well, when Abreu is in RF along with Duran and Rafaela, the SOX probably have the best defensive OF in MLB. Unfortunately, this is definitely not true of the IF.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Kirk's OPS+ of 46 is still twice as good as Bobby D's.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Not Houck's best performance, but it happens to the best. Wheeler, who spanked the SOX ass last week, got clobbered by the O's in his next start. I believe Wheeler gave up 5 HR's.

 

Of course, the SOX defense that inning didn't help.

Edited June 19, 2024 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[vegasbob]

Willie Mays has passed away at 93. He could have been a Red Sox except for his skin color

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

This was Houck's 12th straight start where he gave up 3 runs or less. Edited June 19, 2024 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[vegasbob]

The White Sox SS Paul DeJong is available for a trade. This is his final year on his contract that pays him $1,750,000. Should the SOX go after him?

 

Strikes out a lot, what else is new. Kike can cover shortstop in LA.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Willie Mays has passed away at 93. He could have been a Red Sox except for his skin color

 

The ultimate 5 tool ballplayer. RIP Say Hey.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Strikes out a lot, what else is new. Kike can cover shortstop in LA.

 

I was more interested in his defense.

[redsoxrules]

Ffs Valdez. Swings at a ball on a 2-0 count

[vegasbob]

Valdez hurting them tonight. Chases a 2-0 pitch for a popup with 1st/3rd no outs. Should not be hitting in the #2 slot anyway, despite recent success.

 

then Refsnyder chases a high pitch for the K. Good thing Devers is up.

Edited June 19, 2024 by vegasbob

[redsoxrules]

Now up to Devers to try and salvage this inning after s*** at bats from Valdez and Ref

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Devers will deliver.

[vegasbob]

Understand that even with the recent winning over good teams, a lineup featuring Enmanuel hitting #2, Ref at #3 , Dom Smith in the mix is not necessarily indicative of a good balanced roster.

[moonslav59]

That was very deflating.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Devers will deliver.

 

or not.

[redsoxrules]

What a clusterf*** that was. Deserve to lose this game. This team is so infuriating to watch. Like how the f*** do you not at least tie the game there.