6/12 Phils @ SOX 7:10PM ET

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Which would make them decidedly average for a MLB starter.

 

I remember the days of baseball if a starter had an ERA over 4, he was usually sent down.

[Oscars]

Damn, the SOX were only two wild pitches away from cutting the lead in half.

 

The Sox will be lucky to not be 7-8 games under .500 by the end of June

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Dalbec and "keep it rolling" in the same sentence. That's just nuts.

[illinoisredsox]

I remember the days of baseball if a starter had an ERA over 4, he was usually sent down.

 

So do I, but then I also remember 4 man rotations and Tiant going the distance in a 15 inning loss to the Angels.

Edited June 13, 2024 by illinoisredsox

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

I remember the days of baseball if a starter had an ERA over 4, he was usually sent down.

 

Of course, an ERA of over 4 being average is just a side effect of having 30 teams in MLB.

[illinoisredsox]

Dalbec and "keep it rolling" in the same sentence. That's just nuts.

 

Cmon, he kept it rolling right to the shortstop.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

So do I, but then I also remember Tiant going the distance in a 15 inning loss to the Angels.

 

And 4 days later he's back on the mound. Back in the days where men were men and so were pitchers.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Cmon, he kept it rolling right to the shortstop.

 

Good point. 'Rolling' has more than one definition.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Bad defense is contagious.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

And 4 days later he's back on the mound. Back in the days where men were men and so were pitchers.

 

With that in mind Wheeler is a throw back to those days.

[illinoisredsox]

And 4 days later he's back on the mound. Back in the days where men were men and so were pitchers.

 

 

Nah. It was June of 1974. Darrell Johnson gave him a break and gave him 4 days off after that game. Tiant pitched a complete game win against Vida Blue (who also went the route) on June 10th. Then the aforementioned game against the Angels on June 14 followed by another win against Blue on the 18th. Tiant “only” went 10 in that one and didn’t pitch the bottom of the 11th in a Sox win.

 

8 days, 34+ innings

 

Ryan wimped out of that game in the 12th or 13th.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Great rally inning for SOX. Viva Valdez!

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Nah. It was June of 1974. Darrell Johnson gave him a break and gave him 4 days off after that game. Tiant pitched a complete game win against Vida Blue (who also went the route) on June 10th. Then the aforementioned game against the Angels on June 14 followed by another win against Blue on the 18th. Tiant “only” went 10 in that one and didn’t pitch the bottom of the 11th in a Sox win.

 

8 days, 34+ innings

 

Ryan wimped out of that game in the 12th or 13th.

 

Don't forget Tiant's baserunning skills. Often overlooked, but never forgotten. I loved Tiant.

[illinoisredsox]

Don't forget Tiant's baserunning skills. Often overlooked, but never forgotten. I loved Tiant.

 

And his cigar smoking skills. Keeping those things lit in the shower was amazing.

 

He was fun to watch.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

That's how you execute a shutdown inning.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

And his cigar smoking skills. Keeping those things lit in the shower was amazing.

 

He was fun to watch.

 

He defined the cliche "worth the price of admission."

[illinoisredsox]

Interesting move leaving Dalbec in against the righty.

 

Edit - and Bob puts up a really good AB

[vegasbob]

Ok, nothing short of an amazing comeback and Hamilton provides more. Incredible.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Nah. It was June of 1974. Darrell Johnson gave him a break and gave him 4 days off after that game. Tiant pitched a complete game win against Vida Blue (who also went the route) on June 10th. Then the aforementioned game against the Angels on June 14 followed by another win against Blue on the 18th. Tiant “only” went 10 in that one and didn’t pitch the bottom of the 11th in a Sox win.

 

8 days, 34+ innings

 

Ryan wimped out of that game in the 12th or 13th.

 

With today's pitch count procedure, it would take the average pitcher at least 30 days to pitch 34 innings.

[moonslav59]

DHam might end up redeeming the JBJ trade, at this rate!

[illinoisredsox]

Too bad Fred’s no longer enjoying the game.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Hamilton. He should be put on paper currency.

[notin]

Hamilton doing everything he can to make that Bradley trade look good…

[Maxbialystock]

Yes, the dropped catch by Smith sucked, and forced Crawford to throw more pitches and face more batters.

 

The two homers by Schwarber were not on the D, and we'd probably have lost, even without the error.

 

Our O needs to show up to improve our odds.

 

You're right, of course you are. I've mentioned the offense needing improvement, but pretty much decided "not in my lifetime."

 

So here we are in the 5th freaking inning, and I think I'll still here--to everyone's consternation.

 

And the Sox just stomped all over the Phillies pitching with 6 runs, to take the lead, 6-4, in what seemed a hopeless game against a vastly superior team. I threw rocks, tomatoes, you name it at Devers last night, and tonight he has hit up a storm. And did Cora pinch hit yet afreakingain? He did, Valdez for Westbrook--and 2 rbi's.

 

Pivetta had a tough night, but I still like him. Booser and Kelly have relieved nicely in the 5th and 6th.

 

Back to the hitting. Here are the OPS's Cora sent up against the excellent Phillies pitching--

 

Duran .789

Refsnyder .874

O'Neill .853

Devers .930

Wong .844

Westbrook .620/Valdez .598

Dalbec .445

Hamilton .827

Rafaela .604.

 

So, while I agree the 6th, 7th, and 9th OPS's ain't so great, the other six look pretty good to me. Maybe that's why they are blasting the Phillies right now.

 

Of course there is an alternate explanation. SPLENDIDSPLINTER started the game thread.

[vegasbob]

I appreciate Duran's excitement and willingness to take chances but that may not have been the best idea of the night. Surely hope we don't wind up needing one run more

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

D. Hamilton. A player starting the season in the outhouse and now residing in the penthouse. Let's hope he doesn't get evicted. Edited June 13, 2024 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

You're right, of course you are. I've mentioned the offense needing improvement, but pretty much decided "not in my lifetime."

 

So here we are in the 5th freaking inning, and I think I'll still here--to everyone's consternation.

 

And the Sox just stomped all over the Phillies pitching with 6 runs, to take the lead, 6-4, in what seemed a hopeless game against a vastly superior team. I threw rocks, tomatoes, you name it at Devers last night, and tonight he has hit up a storm. And did Cora pinch hit yet afreakingain? He did, Valdez for Westbrook--and 2 rbi's.

 

Pivetta had a tough night, but I still like him. Booser and Kelly have relieved nicely in the 5th and 6th.

 

Back to the hitting. Here are the OPS's Cora sent up against the excellent Phillies pitching--

 

Duran .789

Refsnyder .874

O'Neill .853

Devers .930

Wong .844

Westbrook .620/Valdez .598

Dalbec .445

Hamilton .827

Rafaela .604.

 

So, while I agree the 6th, 7th, and 9th OPS's ain't so great, the other six look pretty good to me. Maybe that's why they are blasting the Phillies right now.

 

Of course there is an alternate explanation. SPLENDIDSPLINTER started the game thread.

 

Yer dern right, Max.

[FredLynn]

Too bad Fred’s no longer enjoying the game.

 

Meh

Watching the Celtics. ItsTHE FINALS! Did check the score though and thought I’d drop in. I know you all miss me.

[moonslav59]

This team does have a scrappiness quality to it. I called it heart and soul earlier, this year, and I’m not sure that’s the right words for it, but I will say, there have been many enjoyable things to watch with this team.

 

I know, I know, it’s all due to low expectations, and some think we shout pout and cry and boycott our beloved Sox in hopes of waking up a billionaire and holding him ransom.

 

Chuckle, chuckle. Like that’s gonna work.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Because of my innate modesty, I very seldom admit that I'm no Splinter, but I am Splendid.