9/25 Last vs First

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Another thing that may have helped both Maris and Mantle in their HR barrage in 1961 was the addition of two new franchises in the AL. Both Washington and LA were added.

[jacksonianmarch]

Sweeeeeep! And with that, the Sox are now mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. Oh happy day!

[Tedballgame]

Sweeeeeep! And with that, the Sox are now mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. Oh happy day!

 

You are a low life disgusting troll. Sox are 8-1 vs. Skanks in last two playoff series when it matters. Skanks aren't winning anything this year either. Oh happy day.

[Tedballgame]

I was thinking the same thing. It's all about the park you're playing half your games in for the most part. This really doesn't hold true for Judge this season.

 

Not true. Judge would only have about 10 homers if he played in Yellowstone.

[Bellhorn04]

Oh well, at least we didn't give up any homers to Judge. I was kind of expecting him to hit #61 and #62 against us, the way this season has been going.

[moonslav59]

Not true. Judge would only have about 10 homers if he played in Yellowstone.

 

Zero in the Grand Canyon.

[cukes]

Another thing that may have helped both Maris and Mantle in their HR barrage in 1961 was the addition of two new franchises in the AL. Both Washington and LA were added.

 

right field in Yankee stadium was 296 with a 3 foot wall and helped a lot of the left hand hitters although Mantle used to hit moon shots, a genuine slugger, with all the upgrades today it is only 314 and walls were moved in that's why Cashman signs mostly left handed hitters but home runs alone do not win, Brett Gardner was the king of 330' home runs, I love when they mock Fenway but the left handed hitters die with that big right field and the monster will cost a lot of homers with the long singles which would be gone in most parks especially band box Yankee stadium.

[cukes]

You could get a nice car for $5,000.00 back then. Very nice gesture by Maris.

 

Maris was a gentlemen and a shy kid who had trouble dealing with the media, I gave him all the credit he deserved

[cukes]

What's overlooked a lot when talking about Maris is he was an excellent defensive right fielder.

 

outstanding fielder, I remember one game I believe against Baltimore when he was chasing the record and the team was in a pennant hunt, they needed wins and with a runner on he bunted to advance the runner rather than swing away for himself, he was a team player misaligned because the public wanted Mantle to be the one to break the record but he got hurt and missed time, give credit where it's deserved

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Before the steroid era made a mockery of all power stats Jim Rice in 1978 had a season for the ages. He led all of major league baseball in triples(15), HR's(46), RBI(139), Slugging(.600),OPS(.992), OPS+(157), and TB(406). He also hit .315 . His 406 TB were the most since Joe DiMaggio's 418 in 1937.

Rice also hit 15 triples in 1977.

Edited September 26, 2022 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[Tedballgame]

Before the steroid era made a mockery of all power stats Jim Rice in 1978 had a season for the ages. He led all of major league baseball in triples(15), HR's(46), RBI(139), Slugging(.600),OPS(.992), OPS+(157), and TB(406). He also hit .315 . His 406 TB's were the most since Joe DiMaggio's 418 in 1937.

Rice also hit 15 triples in 1977.

 

That was one of the greatest singe seasons of all time. If only the Sox could have won the Series that year. Effing Dent and Effing Torres!

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

That was one of the greatest singe seasons of all time. If only the Sox could have won the Series that year. Effing Dent and Effing Torres!

 

I agree, but the main Yankem culprit was Lou Pinella.

[Bellhorn04]

I agree, but the main Yankem culprit was Lou Pinella.

 

You know your stuff. Extra points for anyone who knows that Piniella made two key plays in that game, not just one.

[moonslav59]

You know your stuff. Extra points for anyone who knows that Piniella made two key plays in that game, not just one.

 

1. The nice catch on Lynn's drive to end the inning?

2. The ball lost in the sun but recovered to stop the ball from getting past him?

[Bellhorn04]

1. The nice catch on Lynn's drive to end the inning?

2. The ball lost in the sun but recovered to stop the ball from getting past him?

 

Yep, those are the two.

[moonslav59]

Yep, those are the two.

 

If either go the other way, we might have won.

 

Lots of "ifs" in that game.

 

That game was almost as heart-breaking as the '75 WS or the '86 loss, although I was older in '86 and was kind of expecting a loss, to some extent.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The 6th game of the '86 WS was reminiscent of what we've seen so much this season. A reliever(C. Schiraldi) who easily got the 1st two outs, but couldn't get the 3rd out. In fact, I've posted a couple of times on the GT that if innings were comprised of 2 outs instead of 3, the SOX would have the best BP in MLB. Edited September 26, 2022 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[moonslav59]

The 6th game of the '86 WS was reminiscent of what we've seen so much this season. A reliever(C. Schiraldi) who easily got the 1st two outs, but couldn't get the 3rd out. In fact, I've posted a couple of times on the GT that if innings were comprised of 2 outs instead of 3, the SOX would have the best BP in MLB.

 

If it wasn't for ghost runners...

[Bellhorn04]

If either go the other way, we might have won.

 

Lots of "ifs" in that game.

 

That game was almost as heart-breaking as the '75 WS or the '86 loss, although I was older in '86 and was kind of expecting a loss, to some extent.

 

For me the '78 playoff loss was the most heart-breaking of them all. That was my favorite Red Sox team ever.

[moonslav59]

For me the '78 playoff loss was the most heart-breaking of them all. That was my favorite Red Sox team ever.

 

I was 16 in '75, and I think more emotional than in '78. They both stung like hell.

 

The whole ending to the '78 season that led up to that game made it way more meaningful than a 7 game series in '75, so I think I feel the same way.

 

'86 hurt, too, but not like '75 and '78.

 

How about the most wonderful moment in the last 50 years of Red Sox history that did not lead to a ring?

 

1. The Dave Henderson HR v the Angels

2. The 1972 season where we finished 1/2 game behind detroit due to a strike induced unbalanced schedule

3. The Fisk HR

4. The Dave henderson HR in the top of the 10th inning of game 6 v the Mets to put the Sox up

 

Write in votes allowed...

 

[Bellhorn04]

I was 16 in '75, and I think more emotional than in '78. They both stung like hell.

 

The whole ending to the '78 season that led up to that game made it way more meaningful than a 7 game series in '75, so I think I feel the same way.

 

'86 hurt, too, but not like '75 and '78.

 

How about the most wonderful moment in the last 50 years of Red Sox history that did not lead to a ring?

 

1. The Dave Henderson HR v the Angels

2. The 1972 season where we finished 1/2 game behind detroit due to a strike induced unbalanced schedule

3. The Fisk HR

4. The Dave henderson HR in the top of the 10th inning of game 6 v the Mets to put the Sox up

 

Write in votes allowed...

 

 

5. The Carbo HR in Game 6.

[moonslav59]

5. The Carbo HR in Game 6.

 

How could I forget!

 

Top 3, maybe.

 

Also, pedro's no hits in 6 IP of relief vs the great Indian's offense. (They had scored 8 runs in the first 3 innings.

[Bellhorn04]

How could I forget!

 

Top 3, maybe.

 

Also, pedro's no hits in 6 IP of relief vs the great Indian's offense. (They had scored 8 runs in the first 3 innings.

 

Yes, that was a thriller.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Game 6 of the '75 WS had 3 awesome moments:

 

1) Carbo's 3-run homer after swinging like a rusty gate on the previous pitch.

2) Evans' web gem catch of Morgan's long shot to right resulting in a double play.

3) And, of course, Fisk's game winning HR that hit the foul pole.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

How could I forget!

 

Top 3, maybe.

 

Also, pedro's no hits in 6 IP of relief vs the great Indian's offense. (They had scored 8 runs in the first 3 innings.

 

Pedro's fast ball never topped 90mph in that game. He just outsmarted them. Btw, don't forget Troy O'Leary had one of the greatest offensive PO's games in that same game with 2 HR's and 7 RBI.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Game 6 of the '75 WS had 3 awesome moments:

 

1) Carbo's 3-run homer after swinging like a rusty gate on the previous pitch.

2) Evans' web gem catch of Morgan's long shot to right resulting in a double play.

3) And, of course, Fisk's game winning HR that hit the foul pole.

 

 

One has to wonder how that '75 WS would have ended if Rice hadn't been injured near the end of that '75 regular season.

Edited September 26, 2022 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[Tedballgame]

How about J.D. Drew's grand slam in 2007 against Cleveland? Probably saved that series. Sox had almost blown a bases loaded no outs situation.

[Tedballgame]

One has to wonder how that '75 WS would have ended if Rice hadn't been injured near the end of that '75 regular season.

 

Sox would have won in 6. They got cheated in one of those games also.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

From 1946 thru 1986 the SOX were in 4 WS. All 4 of those WS went 7 games.

In '46 Wiliams played with an injured arm; in '67 Lonborg pitched with insufficient rest; in '75 Rice didn't play; and in '86 the SOX simply blew game 6.

Edited September 27, 2022 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[moonslav59]

How about J.D. Drew's grand slam in 2007 against Cleveland? Probably saved that series. Sox had almost blown a bases loaded no outs situation.

 

That was huge!