Yankees 2021-2022 Offseason Thread

[bkzwhitestrican]

Can Donaldson even play the field anymore? Sure his bat is a plus but he's a redundant player (old, injury prone, right handed, 1B/DH).

[moonslav59]

Can Donaldson even play the field anymore? Sure his bat is a plus but he's a redundant player (old, injury prone, right handed, 1B/DH).

 

He did play 761 innings at 3B, last year, but he just turned 36.

 

To me, the money is the big hit, unless the Yanks are deciding to go over the tax line significantly

[bkzwhitestrican]

He's probably not a viable option at 3B anymore, his UZR/150 last season -19.4. Pretty terrible.

 

I do like the addition of IKF but overall I feel like the trade didn't net a lot for the amount of payroll they took on. And now they might use that as an excuse for not signing anyone.

[jacksonianmarch]

There’s one other little wrinkle. That the yanks feel confident they can deploy Stanton in LF and Donaldson is a DH in waiting.

 

Also, Donaldson will play 3b/1b/DH on this team. He also fits right in with a Yankee team that enjoys time on the IL, but the redundancy this creates makes it worth the risk. You lock down the biggest defensive positions on the infield and give options for the others and you’ll be good.

[jacksonianmarch]

He's probably not a viable option at 3B anymore, his UZR/150 last season -19.4. Pretty terrible.

 

I do like the addition of IKF but overall I feel like the trade didn't net a lot for the amount of payroll they took on. And now they might use that as an excuse for not signing anyone.

 

Yanks absolutely need a viable outfield addition capable of playing CF. I don’t count Locasto. I know Gallo can be a reasonably good CF, but I’d rather the 4th outfielder be someone who can fill in when Hicks goes down

[moonslav59]

There’s one other little wrinkle. That the yanks feel confident they can deploy Stanton in LF and Donaldson is a DH in waiting.

 

Also, Donaldson will play 3b/1b/DH on this team. He also fits right in with a Yankee team that enjoys time on the IL, but the redundancy this creates makes it worth the risk. You lock down the biggest defensive positions on the infield and give options for the others and you’ll be good.

 

You often joke about fitting right in with the time on the IL aspect of the Yankee roster, but I'm sure you know it is no laughing matter.

 

It's not bad luck you have had all these injuries. It's a choice your GM makes over and over.

 

Maybe, some year, you will see it all come together in some sort of healthy bonanza, but until I see it happen, I'm expecting more of the same.

[dgalehouse]

I guess this means the Yanks are out on Correa , Freeman and probably Rizzo as well. Their lineup is still way too one dimensional.

[bkzwhitestrican]

I still think the Yanks will try to sign Rizzo, and if they are strictly abiding by the LT threshold then they'll try to move someone to clear cap space. Some combination of A Chapman/Voit/Chad Green maybe?

[jacksonianmarch]

They’re already over the LT by about $13 mil at this point.

 

This still feels like an incomplete team. I’m sure they’ll make some other depth moves. I know they’re better now than they were a couple days ago.

[moonslav59]

They’re already over the LT by about $13 mil at this point.

 

This still feels like an incomplete team. I’m sure they’ll make some other depth moves. I know they’re better now than they were a couple days ago.

 

You think this spending will continue?

 

Could you guys be looking to dump some salary?

 

How long will you remain over the tax line? (I'm pretty sure not 3 years.)

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

They’re already over the LT by about $13 mil at this point.

 

This still feels like an incomplete team. I’m sure they’ll make some other depth moves. I know they’re better now than they were a couple days ago.

 

Agreed, but because they got rid of Sanchez. As for the new guys -- coming from a Sox fan -- Gio kills the Sox and so does Donaldson, who will turn 37 this calendar year. You may see a lot of Gleybar at third, too. I like IKF, but we'll see how he fares under the big spotlight...

[jacksonianmarch]

Defense doesn’t usually slump. Our SS defense last year was abysmal. IKF adds contact and speed, two things we sorely lack

[notin]

Defense doesn’t usually slump. Our SS defense last year was abysmal. IKF adds contact and speed, two things we sorely lack

 

 

Added bonus - IKF absolutely murdered Sox pitching last year…

[jacksonianmarch]

I looked at the defensive rating last year and Yanks were 29th in baseball in DRS with -41. We’ve now jettisoned Sanchez for a far better defensive catcher. We moved Torres to a position he’s better at and brought in an elite fielder to SS. We also will get a full season (it seems) from Gallo who’s a major plus OF. It’s pretty amazing the Yanks even made the POs last year. Offense was bad, defense was atrocious. It was literally on the back of the pitching that the Yanks won 92 and made the POs.

[moonslav59]

I looked at the defensive rating last year and Yanks were 29th in baseball in DRS with -41. We’ve now jettisoned Sanchez for a far better defensive catcher. We moved Torres to a position he’s better at and brought in an elite fielder to SS. We also will get a full season (it seems) from Gallo who’s a major plus OF. It’s pretty amazing the Yanks even made the POs last year. Offense was bad, defense was atrocious. It was literally on the back of the pitching that the Yanks won 92 and made the POs.

 

While Torres is better at 2B than SS, is he really an upgrade at 2B over 2021?

 

The Yanks were +1.2 UZR/150 at 2B (-12 DRS) in 1435 innings

 

Torres is -12.0 UZR/150 and -8 DRS at 2B career (1632 innings)

 

Maybe it's a push at 2B.

[moonslav59]

While Torres is better at 2B than SS, is he really an upgrade at 2B over 2021?

 

The Yanks were +1.2 UZR/150 at 2B (-12 DRS) in 1435 innings

 

Torres is -12.0 UZR/150 and -8 DRS at 2B career (1632 innings)

 

Maybe it's a push at 2B.

 

LeMahieu was +6.5 UZR/150 and -2 DRS at 2B in 663 innings, last year.

 

Hell, even Odor had better numbers (-4.2/ -3 DRA in 540 innings) than Torres career at 2B.

[bkzwhitestrican]

Full season of Rizzo at 1st will also boost the defense

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Added bonus - IKF absolutely murdered Sox pitching last year…

 

But only single-digit taters. Surely, losing Sanchez' longball bat will affect the Yanks' status in the next MLB Power Rankings...

 

And we'll see how much power they really have when they ask city hall to please let Judge play home games this year.

[jacksonianmarch]

Rizzo back on a 1+1 deal. This essentially spells the end of Voit in NY, which is fine. Voit hasn’t had a healthy, full season since joining NY (only full season was the 60 game sprint). He’s also a butcher in the field.

 

Rizzo also has a very good contact and K rate and adds a lefty bat.

 

Still worries me that the Yanks are looking like they’ll need to get Stanton into the OF. Stanton is not a bad OFer, but he gets hurt easily and DH has ensured his bat is in the lineup

 

1. Lemahieu 3b

2. Judge RF

3. Rizzo 1b

4. Stanton LF/DH

5. Gallo CF/LF

6. Donaldson/Hicks DH/CF

7. Torres 2b

8. IKF SS

9. Higashioka C

[jacksonianmarch]

But only single-digit taters. Surely, losing Sanchez' longball bat will affect the Yanks' status in the next MLB Power Rankings...

 

And we'll see how much power they really have when they ask city hall to please let Judge play home games this year.

 

Higgy will probably hit 18-20 HR in a full year.

[notin]

But only single-digit taters. Surely, losing Sanchez' longball bat will affect the Yanks' status in the next MLB Power Rankings...

 

And we'll see how much power they really have when they ask city hall to please let Judge play home games this year.

 

 

A potentially overly literate interpretation of the term “Power Rankings”.

 

Are you positive that term isn’t based on electricity consumption?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

A potentially overly literate interpretation of the term “Power Rankings”.

 

Are you positive that term isn’t based on electricity consumption?

 

A lot of people forget that a big source of electricity production is cole, so when leaving a room turn the lights-out... or when leaving a mound because your spin rate drops without sticky stuff.

[jacksonianmarch]

Rizzo and IKF improve our contact. Strangely, so does Donaldson, but that’s just because how bad our contact actually is. Defense is improved. OF still not improved at all, which worries me. Rotation is deep but a question mark for health (Severino coming off TJS/shoulder s*** and Taillon likely missing April). Pen is deep. This team, as built, should be in the ALE title mix. It seems teams are doing that now that 6 teams make the POs. Make a “good enough” team and then add at the deadline.

[Meh]

Yankees are in conversations with A's about Montas and Manea. i prefer Montas and would love if we could grab Murphy too. I think maybe the A's would have some interest in Voit, as he has 3 years left and if he is healthy could be flipped for a big prospect package at the deadline. I'm not saying just him but he could be apart of a deal maybe even Torres too and prospects.

[moonslav59]

Yankees are in conversations with A's about Montas and Manea. i prefer Montas and would love if we could grab Murphy too. I think maybe the A's would have some interest in Voit, as he has 3 years left and if he is healthy could be flipped for a big prospect package at the deadline. I'm not saying just him but he could be apart of a deal maybe even Torres too and prospects.

 

What do the Yanks give for Montas and or Murphy?

 

BTV has this...

 

65.2 Murphy

39.6 Montas

 

for

59.8 Volpe

27.6 Loasiga

22.9 Dominguez

 

or Volpe, Loasiga, Pereira & Higashoka

 

[jacksonianmarch]

Yanks looking to add to pitching depth. Not seeing anything on Murphy. Montas or Manaea would cost something for sure and it would probably start with Voit. Oakland now has the space to rehab his value and deal him if he stays healthy

[bkzwhitestrican]

Peraza + Voit (and eating Voit's salary) for Montas comes pretty close per BTV. And sounds like something that would interest both clubs.

[moonslav59]

If you guys are so low on Voit, why would OAK want him so badly, even if paid for by NY?

 

You're not getting Monats for Peraza & Voit.

[jacksonianmarch]

If you guys are so low on Voit, why would OAK want him so badly, even if paid for by NY?

 

You're not getting Monats for Peraza & Voit.

 

Yanks plan to contend. Voit is a very valuable player....when he takes the field. Yanks cannot take the chance his knee barks on him again while fighting through what will be the toughest division in baseball. That is why they signed Rizzo. Rizzo offers durability, defense, good ABs and a lefty bat. Voit's ceiling is higher but his floor is that he doesnt play.

 

Voit offers the A's a chance to have another Matt Olson type haul. If Voit stays healthy for all 162, I have no doubt he smacks 40HR and likely pieces together a decent average. If he does so, he will be tremendously valuable at the deadline or this offseason to deal again. The A's like this method of trading. They always grab a high level prospect, a far away prospect and either a MLB rookie or arb guy who is down on their luck.

 

Look at the Olson deal. Pache's value took a hit last year with a middling performance in AAA and a dreadful cup of coffee at the big league level. Langeliers is probably the most valuable prospect changing hands as a D first power hitting catcher who will be big league ready. Estes is a young pitcher with big K rates who is a ways away. Cusick was the first rounder from 2021, so far away.

 

That is also a deal for a hitter in Oakland who has been nails for four years. Different when you are dealing with an arm from Oakland who has only 2 good seasons under his belt. While Voit and Peraza wouldn't be the only pieces, I could see a few deeper prospects moving as well. But it would fit with the A's MO

[bkzwhitestrican]

I'm not down on Voit, I think he's a top hitter when healthy. But with Rizzo now and DJL as the backup, not sure where he gets regular playing time.