10/1 at Nats

[YastrzemskI]

Steroid abusers will and should be banned forever. That also includes Clemens and A-Rod.

 

That’s fine.. many people agree with you but Bonds and Clemens were hall of fame players before the steroid era began. Another thing to consider is that pitchers used roids too.. so it’s a wash. Another Thing to consider is that many players used, but weren’t caught. Griffey had rumors about him. His numbers fall exactly in line with the steroid era.. he had ridiculous injuries like pulling hamstrings from literally jogging to second base as a Cincinnati Red. This whole steroid debate is not black and white. I agree that McGwire and Sosa should not be let in. But Bonds had 9 gold gloves and 500 home runs under his belt before he decided to use. Clemens was a monster for us.

 

To me.. the biggest a-hole was A-Roid. He actually hired people to threaten witnesses and tried to sue his provider. Dude was unreal.

[YastrzemskI]

Thank God these have been solo shots.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Still four more outs before the bullpen chokes off the season. Who the hell is closing?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

That zero on Ottavino's jersey has taken on a whole new meaning in the last couple of months.

[d-money]

It’s never easy with this BP. Barely hanging on.

[d-money]

This is f***ing ridiculous.

[moonslav59]

Jays win

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Don't hang a slider.

[d-money]

Let’s hope they score an extra run because with this BP no lead is safe.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Don't hang a slider.

 

That's the one! Breaking off the plate.

 

Now somehow, Robles will have to retire three batters in the 9th before Soto takes him deep.

[moonslav59]

That’s fine.. many people agree with you but Bonds and Clemens were hall of fame players before the steroid era began. Another thing to consider is that pitchers used roids too.. so it’s a wash. Another Thing to consider is that many players used, but weren’t caught. Griffey had rumors about him. His numbers fall exactly in line with the steroid era.. he had ridiculous injuries like pulling hamstrings from literally jogging to second base as a Cincinnati Red. This whole steroid debate is not black and white. I agree that McGwire and Sosa should not be let in. But Bonds had 9 gold gloves and 500 home runs under his belt before he decided to use. Clemens was a monster for us.

 

To me.. the biggest a-hole was A-Roid. He actually hired people to threaten witnesses and tried to sue his provider. Dude was unreal.

 

Who knows precisely when Bonds started using?

 

No doubt, the dude was unreal and unmatched, but his most unreal years were clearly while using.

[Tedballgame]

Bonds was and is a dick! Meanest ball player I ever met.

[Tedballgame]

Sox really need some insurance runs.

[YastrzemskI]

Bonds was and is a dick! Meanest ball player I ever met.

 

Most of these athletes are. I met John Elway.. I wish I hadn’t. There are many stories about Michael Jordan that turn your stomach. Magic Johnson actually seems to be a nice person.

[Tedballgame]

Horrible base running by Kike!

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

That’s fine.. many people agree with you but Bonds and Clemens were hall of fame players before the steroid era began. .

 

I never bought this. Pete Rose was also a Hall of Famer before he broke the rules. I bet a lot of criminals were choir boys before they broke the law... so does that mean they shouldn't have to pay the consequences for later decisions and actions?

[Tedballgame]

Most of these athletes are. I met John Elway.. I wish I hadn’t. There are many stories about Michael Jordan that turn your stomach. Magic Johnson actually seems to be a nice person.

 

Rick Sutcliffe very nice. Mark McGwire very nice.

[moonslav59]

Rays 4

Yanks 1

 

9th inning

[moonslav59]

Roger Clemens is a scumbag.

[d-money]

Better hang on to this damn game!

[Tedballgame]

I hope Robles is up to the task. The season is riding on this inning.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Why isn't Kike in center, Verdugo in left and Iggy at second?

[moonslav59]

Here we go.

 

Brasier and Robles- the go to guys.

[Tedballgame]

Throw strikes.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Why isn't Kike in center, Verdugo in left and Iggy at second?

 

Ok, fixed.

[Tedballgame]

Why isn't Kike in center, Verdugo in left and Iggy at second?

 

I was wondering why Verdugo wasn't in.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Finally-- an Atom ball At US

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I was wondering why Verdugo wasn't in.

 

I hate to say it, but probably because JD is the next scheduled batter if it goes extras.

[YastrzemskI]

I never bought this. Pete Rose was also a Hall of Famer before he broke the rules. I bet a lot of criminals were choir boys before they broke the law... so does that mean they shouldn't have to pay the consequences for later decisions and actions?

 

That’s criminal activity, not sports. Big difference. But again.. both pitchers and hitters juiced during that era. Whatever.

 

Jim Leyritz juiced.. he also hit a three run homer vs the Braves to bring the Skanks back to life in the World Series in ‘96. MLB isn’t about to take rings away. Flags and banners keep flying… proudly. But again.. the Hall of fame is nothing but a popularity and likability contest. What about all the players that juiced but still sucked? Manny Ramirez hit how many post season home runs?? How come everyone didn’t hit as well as him? What about the players who weren’t caught but who have great numbers during that era? Should they just be automatic hall of famers? Whatever..

[d-money]

What are the chances that the rays blow this 4-1 lead? 1 man on and 1 out.