8/8 at Jays, Dimanche

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Laughable base running all around MLB. You see mistakes and crappy base running you would not have expected from a decent high school team 15 years ago. But I forget, all that matters is hitting it over the fence. They simply do not know what to do with themselves if they are on the base paths.

 

 

Learning baseball fundamentals doesn't seem to interest most players as much as learning launch angles.

[TylerD]

and he didn’t leave the mound crying.

 

Lol always a plus.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

When I was growing up in the 60's, there were 16 teams in MLB. You really had to be damn good to reach the big show. It wasn't unusual then for future major league players to spend 3-5 years in triple A. By the time a player was brought up, he knew the mental part of the game. It was very, very rare for a player from that period to learn the game at the major league level. Obviously, things have changed and they are what they are. But, please, don't try to sell me that baseball is better now than it was then.

[jung]

When I was growing up in the 60's, there were 16 teams in MLB. You really had to be damn good to reach the big show. It wasn't unusual then for future major league players to spend 3-5 years in triple A. By the time a player was brought up, he knew the mental part of the game. It was very, very rare for a player from that period to learn the game at the major league level. Obviously, things have changed and they are what they are. But, please, don't try to sell me that baseball is better now than it was then.

 

Plus 1 ....Plus 1 squared.....Plus 1 cubed

 

Too many teams....not enough actual good players to go around.

[illinoisredsox]

Learning baseball fundamentals doesn't seem to interest most players as much as learning launch angles.

 

They aren’t taught them from youth ball.

 

Somewhere around 15 years ago, I was asked to coach a 14-15 year old all-star team. In practice, I tried to get pitchers to back up 3rd and home when required instead of standing on the mound and to have the 1st baseman as the cutoff man. I tried to teach them no more than 2 throws on a rundown. To actually attention to a take sign so we could get a stolen base. None of it took. According to one of the parents, it was “too complicated for such young players”.

 

Now when I started Little League at age 9, that was stuff we practiced all the time. I repeat, I was 9. Of course, that was in the late 60s.

Edited August 8, 2021 by illinoisredsox

[d-money]

This would be a horrible L if they dropped this game.

[Maxbialystock]

When I was growing up in the 60's, there were 16 teams in MLB. You really had to be damn good to reach the big show. It wasn't unusual then for future major league players to spend 3-5 years in triple A. By the time a player was brought up, he knew the mental part of the game. It was very, very rare for a player from that period to learn the game at the major league level. Obviously, things have changed and they are what they are. But, please, don't try to sell me that baseball is better now than it was then.

 

I hear you but there is also a famous story about the 1950's Dodgers when three of their players all ended up on 3d base at the same time.

 

You are probably right that back then players were better on the fundamentals, but I also think the games these days are so very much longer that it's harder for players to maintain focus. Back then, too, infielders and outfielders didn't have to adjust to playing in weird formations. Not too long ago I think it was Devers who took 3b when he realized a shift had left it wide open.

[illinoisredsox]

Cora looks like he may be starting to manage the sprint.

[jung]

They aren’t taught them from youth ball.

 

Somewhere around 15 years ago, I was asked to coach a 14-15 year old all-star team. In practice, I tried to get pitchers to back up 3rd and home when required instead of standing on the mound and to have the 1st baseman as the cutoff man. I tried to teach them no more than 2 throws on a rundown. To actually attention to a take sign do we could get a stolen base. None of it took. According to one of the parents, it was “too complicated for such young players”.

 

Now when I started Little League at age 9, that was stuff we practiced all the time. I repeat, I was 9. Of course, they was in the late 60s.

 

Youth baseball???? Youth baseball is the land of the participation trophy now. But its truly ridiculous that there is nowhere left where these guys are actually taught how to play the game and they don't appear to care, players couches, management, ownership....none of them care. Makes you wonder want "instruction" is provided in the Instructional League.

[illinoisredsox]

Jays need not pay attention to Barnes’ curve today; sit on the fastball.

[d-money]

f***ing Barnes

[d-money]

Jays need not pay attention to Barnes’ curve today; sit on the fastball.

 

 

You make excuses for everyone and Barnes blows the f***ing game!!!!!

[TylerD]

No words man. Unreal.

[jung]

Is Barnes trying to set a record for HR's given up by a closer in a single season?

[jad]

Yup. That launch-angle stuff is b.s. It's all about cutting down on the swing and going the opposite way. Right?

[d-money]

Nice going *******! This team might need a new closer in 2022.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Damn, if the SOX BP has turned to s***, what do they have left?

[d-money]

Damn, if the SOX BP has turned to s***, what do they have left?

 

They need a new closer in 2022. The fact that Barnes can’t protect a 2 run lead says enough.

[d-money]

Talk about a gut wrenching L this would be.

[Jasonbay44]

I know he didn’t directly blow the game or anything, but Garrett Richards really f***ing sucks.

[a700hitter]

Did anyone not see that coming? Barnes is over taxed and the big boys can usually get him anyway. Our starters give us pathetic innings. Scoring 8 should be more than enough and your starter should be able to give you 6. Our pitching is a joke. Death spiral continues. No funeral tomorrow. It’s an off day. I will be wearing black when we play Tampa.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Yup. That launch-angle stuff is b.s. It's all about cutting down on the swing and going the opposite way. Right?

 

Didn't say launch angle was BS. Just mentioned that fundamentals have taken a back seat.

[d-money]

I know he didn’t directly blow the game or anything, but Garrett Richards really f***ing sucks.

 

So does Matt Barnes. I think i have seen enough of him.

[d-money]

Did anyone not see that coming? Barnes is over taxed and the big boys can usually get him anyway. Our starters give us pathetic innings. Scoring 8 should be more than enough and your starter should be able to give you 6. Our pitching is a joke. Death spiral continues. No funeral tomorrow. It’s an off day. I will be wearing black when we play Tampa.

 

 

Too many excuses with Matty Barnes. He hasn’t been overworked.

[jung]

Why does Barnes think he can pitch to that location? Nobody can pitch to that location and his pitches are like a heat seeking missile to that location.

[Maxbialystock]

That's what happens when Sox pitchers over-rely on the fast ball. Some fault too accrues to Plawecki. After throwing too many fastballs to McGuire and Springer, suddenly Barnes and Plawecki go with the changeups and strike Guerrero out.

[Jasonbay44]

So does Matt Barnes. I think i have seen enough of him.

 

Barnes does not suck. He had a horrible performance today, but he’s been solid all season. Richards is dog s*** who needs to be DFA

[a700hitter]

I know he didn’t directly blow the game or anything, but Garrett Richards really f***ing sucks.

He’s useless. Valdez can do better than a 5.50 ERA. Bring back the Weber punching bag. At least he doesn’t whine that he can’t cheat.

[jad]

No worries. Schwaber's coming. (He can pitch as well as play first, right?). As soon as that new groin injury heals.

[illinoisredsox]

You make excuses for everyone and Barnes blows the f***ing game!!!!!

 

What excuse. Barnes had no control of the curve ball today and his fastball is too straight to work well if he doesn’t have the curve.

 

I said they can sit on his fastball; Springer did and hammered it.

 

Meanwhile, as you are a poster who only shows up when things are going poorly, GFY.

Edited August 8, 2021 by illinoisredsox