trade deadline

[jacksonianmarch]

The trades I’m interested in seeing from Bloom will come this off-season. He’s the rare bird that deals off his top prospects for another top prospect and he’s usually right

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

I've said all along, something like Gray and Santana or Boyd and Schoop. (a rental and a 1 more year guy)

 

That makes us better than NYY, TOR, TBR and about even with HOU & CWS while retaining our future goals intact.

 

Disagree, if you want, but my position is logical and valid.

 

Imho, Houston strengthening their BP in the last two days makes them the favorite to reach the WS. Even with the projected SOX trades you posted.

[Larry Cook]

The Red Sox have a developing but still not even average farm. Adding Mayer absolutely helps, but he’s one player. Durran has warts in his game, but needs a bit more time. Downs has faded. Casas has been worth the price of admission. To make a deal of the magnitude the Dodgers made would have rendered your cupboard bare. Bloom isn’t a one year wonder guy. He’s not building to have it all end next year. I don’t think he is entirely sold on the state of the Red Sox to go all in. He just isn’t. Too many variables and too little traceable assets below the big league level to make a major move. I keep telling you guys this, but you don’t seem to want to hear it. Bloom is a Friedman acolyte. Friedman has turned the Dodgers into a farm system machine and he uses that farm as currency to stay ahead of everyone else. Until Bloom gets that level of prospect cache, he isn’t making a big deal

 

I agree! In interviews hang’em Chaim has said that any deal is about today and tomorrow.

 

But we do have injuries piling up and depth is being stretched perilously thin at the moment.

 

Does hang’em Chaim make a bad big name short term deal this year, but put the rebuild back a couple years in the hopes we win this year?

 

I do not see him doing it. But I do see a minor deal or two being done.

[moonslav59]

The trades I’m interested in seeing from Bloom will come this off-season. He’s the rare bird that deals off his top prospects for another top prospect and he’s usually right

 

That and what can and will he do with a fat wallet.

 

2022 we become top contenders.

 

2023 we are in the cream, of the cream.

[moonslav59]

Imho, Houston strengthening their BP in the last two days makes them the favorite to reach the WS. Even with the projected SOX trades you posted.

 

They looked better on paper before the trades.

 

I think we can get close enough to compete with them, with 2 good trades, but I don't want Bloom giving too much.

 

Bloom made this season fun. I'm not asking him to blow up the future for a long shot arrow.

[Swiharts Ghost]

The Kyle Schwaber rumor is really interesting A Lineup with Schwarbs JDM Devers Xander Verdugo is scary .Maybe get Santana also and Big Red to shore up the BP ? Shwarber ,Santana ,Big Red ? I’m all for it . Edited July 30, 2021 by Swiharts Ghost

[moonslav59]

I agree! In interviews hang’em Chaim has said that any deal is about today and tomorrow.

 

But we do have injuries piling up and depth is being stretched perilously thin at the moment.

 

Does hang’em Chaim make a bad big name short term deal this year, but put the rebuild back a couple years in the hopes we win this year?

 

I do not see him doing it. But I do see a minor deal or two being done.

 

It can be more than minor and still not upset the future. We have some decent players that cannot fit on next year's roster assume we sign 4-5 free agents and protect 5-6 Rule 5 prospects. If we are going to lose some goodplayers,anyway, it's not trading away the future by trading some of them, now.

[moonslav59]

The Kyle Schwaber rumor is really interesting .I wonder if Bloom plans on using Arroyo a lot more over there when you have Kike at second and Dugo in CF ? A Lineup with Schwarbs JDM Devers Xander Verdugo is scary .Maybe get Santana also and Big Red to shore up the BP ? Shwarber ,Santana ,Big Red ? I’m all for it .

 

Shwaber had one of the hottest streaks known to mankind before going on the IL.

[harmony]

The Kyle Schwaber rumor is really interesting .I wonder if Bloom plans on using Arroyo a lot more over there when you have Kike at second and Dugo in CF ? A Lineup with Schwarbs JDM Devers Xander Verdugo is scary .Maybe get Santana also and Big Red to shore up the BP ? Shwarber ,Santana ,Big Red ? I’m all for it .

Bingo!

 

[moonslav59]

MLBTR just reported Schwarber to Red Sox!

 

(He does not play 1B.)

[Swiharts Ghost]

MLBTR just reported Schwarber to Red Sox!

 

Holy s*** I called one lol

[Swiharts Ghost]

MLBTR just reported Schwarber to Red Sox!

 

(He does not play 1B.)

 

 

I’m freaking Giddy !!!!!!! Loooooooove Love lovvvvvvvvve me Some Kyle !!!!!

[moonslav59]

Holy s*** I called one lol

 

Nice call!

 

Wonder what we gave up.

[oldtimer]

I've said all along, something like Gray and Santana or Boyd and Schoop. (a rental and a 1 more year guy)

 

That makes us better than NYY, TOR, TBR and about even with HOU & CWS while retaining our future goals intact.

 

Disagree, if you want, but my position is logical and valid.

 

It is a little disconcerting to watch trades be made by our competitors while nothing is being announced for the Sox. We need an improvement at first base for this year and most of 2022. The poor performance of E-Rod again has me changing my mind about the need for a SP instead of a RP. We are on the same wavelength on those points. I hope Bloom doesn't wait until 4pm tomorrow to make his moves.

[Swiharts Ghost]

MLBTR just reported Schwarber to Red Sox!

 

(He does not play 1B.)

 

 

Moon is he on Il for Hammy still ? Maybe because on the block ?

[Swiharts Ghost]

Nice call!

 

Wonder what we gave up.

 

 

We just got a fantastic teammate also !!! I’ll never doubt Blooms plans again never .

[Larry Cook]

Schwaber for also Ramirez? Interesting.

[notin]

MLBTR just reported Schwarber to Red Sox!

 

(He does not play 1B.)

 

Schwarber may not have played 1b before, but he is a former catcher. I’d bet he sees time at 1b. Not like the Sox need outfielders right now..

[Swiharts Ghost]

It is a little disconcerting to watch trades be made by our competitors while nothing is being announced for the Sox. We need an improvement at first base for this year and most of 2022. The poor performance of E-Rod again has me changing my mind about the need for a SP instead of a RP. We are on the same wavelength on those points. I hope Bloom doesn't wait until 4pm tomorrow to make his moves.

 

OT !!!! We just landed Kyle Freaking Schwarber !!!!!

[Swiharts Ghost]

Schwarber may not have played 1b before, but he is a former catcher. I’d bet he sees time at 1b. Not like the Sox need outfielders right now..

 

 

Can we just go get Santana too ? Leave Kyle to play the OF !!! Bloom answers Big Time !!!!!

[Swiharts Ghost]

Schwaber for also Ramirez? Interesting.

 

 

Have you heard Ramirez ??????

[moonslav59]

Since 2019, Schwarber has averaged this per 650 PAs:

 

.238 42 96

60 XBHs

.333 OBP

.515 SLG

.848 OPS

 

176 Ks (27% K rate)

 

If we trade for Santana and a pitcher like Boyd or Gray, will that be enough to quiet the restless?

[Larry Cook]

Have you heard Ramirez ??????

 

Yes, single a pitcher, on the dl, but has a big arm.

[oldtimer]

There is still a lot of talent left out there.

 

I doubt we go as high as Berrios, but we can get something useful, and hopeful more than just a rental.

 

We just picked up Kyle Schwaber for a pitching prospect. He is injured but should be back soon.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Bloooooooooom !!!!!!! f*** Yessssssss

[Swiharts Ghost]

Get Big Red Back !!!!Lets Gooooooo do this !!!

[moonslav59]

Aldo Ramirez is a pretty good prospect, but is 20 and pretty far away.

 

He was ranked 8th on soxprospects.com, just behind Bello and ahead of Yorke, Groome & Mata.

 

What kinda sucks about it is that Ramirez is not a Rule 5 guy, this winter, so we don't really make room for anybody else, next year, but more deals are likely. Stay tuned.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Since 2019, Schwarber has averaged this per 650 PAs:

 

.238 42 96

60 XBHs

.333 OBP

.515 SLG

.848 OPS

 

176 Ks (27% K rate)

 

If we trade for Santana and a pitcher like Boyd or Gray, will that be enough to quiet the restless?

 

Yes and soooool pumped !!!

[moonslav59]

Schwarber is owed:

 

21:$7M (about $3.3MM pro-rated, assuming no money changed hands.)

22:$11.5M mutual option ($3M buyout)

 

This deal puts us close to the tax line but not over it.

[moonslav59]

Get Big Red Back !!!!Lets Gooooooo do this !!!

 

We need starters, as in multiple.