May 7 Red Sox (ERod) @ Orioles (Harvey)

[moonslav59]

Still jacko won't give the Sox credit lol

 

Of course not, but if the roles were reversed, he'd be gloating with "I told you so's."

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Still jacko won't give the Sox credit lol

 

Actually, the pain in the butt knows his baseball. That's probably why he doesn't go on the Yankem board.

[moonslav59]

Actually, the pain in the butt knows his baseball. That's probably why he doesn't go on the Yankem board.

 

I don't mind Jacko at all, and yes, he's pretty sharp.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Yup, and also Joe D's 56 game hitting streak.

 

During the same period that DiMaggio had his 56 game streak, Ted Williams had a higher batting average.

[a700hitter]

ERod battled without his best stuff tonight and got the job done.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Speaking of Teddy Ballgame, the odds of anyone ever hitting .400 again is probably a million to one.

[moonslav59]

ERod battled without his best stuff tonight and got the job done.

 

The sign of a winner.

 

The team's record in his starts have been mind-boggling.

 

5-1 2021

(undefeated in 2020- LOL)

26-8 2019

19-4 2018

 

50-13 since 2018.

 

.794 winning %!

 

[moonslav59]

Speaking of Teddy Ballgame, the odds of anyone ever hitting .400 again is probably a million to one.

 

This year: a 999 billion to one.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The sign of a winner.

 

The team's record in his starts have been mind-boggling.

 

5-1 2021

(undefeated in 2020- LOL)

26-8 2019

19-4 2018

 

50-13 since 2018.

 

.794 winning %!

 

 

Moon, because you're the king of stats, could you try and find what the SOX's average runs per game are when E-Rod starts?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

This year: a 999 billion to one.

 

 

I think you're being kind.

[moonslav59]

Bobby Dee's OPS went up 69 points in one game.

 

That just shows how much small sample sizes should not be counted on as being all that important.

 

Just 2 more games like this, he's over .700, and a new punching bag will be found.

[Larry Cook]

Good news today: dalbec woke up. Whitlock is the find of the offseason for us thus far.

 

Bad news today: fraunchy back in the toilet!

[Maxbialystock]

ERod battled without his best stuff tonight and got the job done.

 

ERod got some help from the Orioles and Dalbec's near-miraculous 3 run dinger. He was better in April. In his last 2 starts, 7 K's and 4 BB's. In April, 26 K's and 2 BB's.

[Maxbialystock]

The sign of a winner.

 

The team's record in his starts have been mind-boggling.

 

5-1 2021

(undefeated in 2020- LOL)

26-8 2019

19-4 2018

 

50-13 since 2018.

 

.794 winning %!

 

 

Lucky Eddie. Winning percentage is one of the last important pitching stats.

[Maxbialystock]

Good news today: dalbec woke up. Whitlock is the find of the offseason for us thus far.

 

Bad news today: fraunchy back in the toilet!

 

Whitlock is/was not a find but a real gamble by Bloom. The Yankees drafted him in 2017 and liked him, but he had TJ surgery in 2019 and obviously didn't pitch last year. Chaim Bloom drafted him last December under Rule 5, which was designed to prevent MLB teams from hiding/protecting talent in the minors. Rule 5 says you can draft another team's talented player who hasn't played in the Majors, but you must keep him on your active MLB roster the entire first season after you draft him. That's a pretty big gamble, but as of today he has pitched 17.1 innings and has the 3d best WAR (.7) on the Sox pitching staff.

[Maxbialystock]

Bobby Dee's OPS went up 69 points in one game.

 

That just shows how much small sample sizes should not be counted on as being all that important.

 

Just 2 more games like this, he's over .700, and a new punching bag will be found.

 

You toss off the last sentence as though those 2 games are a piece of cake. Yes, you're only making a statistical point, but reality says "2 more games like his" won't be easy, even if the player were Devers or Bogie or JDM.

 

That said, Dalbec's 3 run dinger was huge and a kind of neat irony coming against these Orioles. Back when they were good and winning WS's, Earl Weaver was the manager, and his credo was great pitching and the 3 run dinger.

Edited May 8, 2021 by Maxbialystock

[Bellhorn04]

Whitlock is/was not a find but a real gamble by Bloom. The Yankees drafted him in 2017 and liked him, but he had TJ surgery in 2019 and obviously didn't pitch last year. Chaim Bloom drafted him last December under Rule 5, which was designed to prevent MLB teams from hiding/protecting talent in the minors. Rule 5 says you can draft another team's talented player who hasn't played in the Majors, but you must keep him on your active MLB roster the entire first season after you draft him. That's a pretty big gamble, but as of today he has pitched 17.1 innings and has the 3d best WAR (.7) on the Sox pitching staff.

 

It was former Red Sox scout Bob Hamelin who persuaded the team they should grab Whitlock if they had the chance.

 

It was a great move whatever you want to call it: find, gamble...

 

Personally I like to think of it as picking the Yankees' pocket.

[Bellhorn04]

Bobby Dee's OPS went up 69 points in one game.

 

That just shows how much small sample sizes should not be counted on as being all that important.

 

Just 2 more games like this, he's over .700, and a new punching bag will be found.

 

What this also illustrates is that in small samples, OPS in particular can be a distorted stat because of the inflationary factor. One home run yields an OPS of 5.000.

[Maxbialystock]

It was former Red Sox scout Bob Hamelin who persuaded the team they should grab Whitlock if they had the chance.

 

It was a great move whatever you want to call it: find, gamble...

 

Personally I like to think of it as picking the Yankees' pocket.

 

All true and well said.

[Maxbialystock]

What this also illustrates is that in small samples, OPS in particular can be a distorted stat because of the inflationary factor. One home run yields an OPS of 5.000.

 

Perhaps. But there's a photo of Ted Williams at absolutely his most exuberant. He just hit a game-winning dinger in the All-Star game and is running and jumping for joy as he rounds the bases. He was an incredible hitter who batted .388 (in 547 plate appearances) when he was 39 freaking years old. He lived to hit and was very analytical about it. But I'm pretty sure he never came close to that sheer joy after hitting a single, double, or the rare triple.

 

I'm sort of anti-homer, but the simple fact is that dingers have a lot of potential to be game-changers, as Dalbec showed last night.

 

And the other fact is that, your 5.000 notwithstanding, 1.200 is a fantastically high OPS, and it's less that 1/4th of 5.000. So, yeah, a dinger provides a great high, but accumulating at bats brings most players back to earth. Williams lifetime OPS was 1.116 and Ruth's was 1.164--the two highest in MLB history.

[Bellhorn04]

And the other fact is that, your 5.000 notwithstanding, 1.200 is a fantastically high OPS, and it's less that 1/4th of 5.000. So, yeah, a dinger provides a great high, but accumulating at bats brings most players back to earth. Williams lifetime OPS was 1.116 and Ruth's was 1.164--the two highest in MLB history.

 

Yes, and having given this much more thought than I should, I believe that Williams's numbers are more impressive because of the absurd .482 OBP.

 

Also, we know now that Yankee Stadium was much friendlier to left handed hitters than Fenway was.

[Maxbialystock]

Perhaps. But there's a photo of Ted Williams at absolutely his most exuberant. He just hit a game-winning dinger in the All-Star game and is running and jumping for joy as he rounds the bases. He was an incredible hitter who batted .388 (in 547 plate appearances) when he was 39 freaking years old. He lived to hit and was very analytical about it. But I'm pretty sure he never came close to that sheer joy after hitting a single, double, or the rare triple.

 

I'm sort of anti-homer, but the simple fact is that dingers have a lot of potential to be game-changers, as Dalbec showed last night.

 

And the other fact is that, your 5.000 notwithstanding, 1.200 is a fantastically high OPS, and it's less that 1/4th of 5.000. So, yeah, a dinger provides a great high, but accumulating at bats brings most players back to earth. Williams lifetime OPS was 1.116 and Ruth's was 1.164--the two highest in MLB history.

 

I just looked up the list of all-time high OPS's. Gehrig was 3d with 1.080, Manny Ramirez (yes, Manny) was 9th with .996 and higher than Mantle, Dimaggio, Musial, and Cobb. Mike Trout is 8th at 1.005 and of course currently leading MLB at 1.235. Mays, my personal favorite, is 24th. Ortiz is 32d. Miguel Cabrera is 40th (.928). ARod was 35th (.930).

Edited May 8, 2021 by Maxbialystock

[Bellhorn04]

Really happy for Dalbec.

 

He killed it last year and this spring, then ran into the buzzsaw of MLB pitchers who now had a "book" on him, as they used to call it.

[Maxbialystock]

Yes, and having given this much more thought than I should, I believe that Williams's numbers are more impressive because of the absurd .482 OBP.

 

Also, we know now that Yankee Stadium was much friendlier to left handed hitters than Fenway was.

 

Yankee Stadium was "the house that Ruth built," so of course it was going to be friendly to the Babe. Also Gehrig.

 

To me Fenway Park is probably the most photogenic ballpark in MLB and "friendly" to no one, player or fan.

[Maxbialystock]

Really happy for Dalbec.

 

He killed it last year and this spring, then ran into the buzzsaw of MLB pitchers who now had a "book" on him, as they used to call it.

 

Yep. I think the book has affected other Sox players as well. The "book" sound erudite, bookish, but in fact it's just a freaking computer. It is my hope, my fervent wish that over time players adapt and learn how to reduce what is becoming the complete domination of MLB by computers. Actually, I know for a fact that college teams, using volunteers majoring in computer science, rely on computer programs to position players, pitch to hitters, etc. Next up: Little League Baseball. What did Vince Lombardi say? "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing."

[moonslav59]

Lucky Eddie. Winning percentage is one of the last important pitching stats.

 

It's not all that important anymore, but it still has value and is "telling" in some regards over a long enough sample size like most recent 63 GS.

[Maxbialystock]

Congrats to moonslav59 on the back to back wins. Please, please keep it up.

 

Richards today: 21.2 innings and 6 ER's in his last 4 starts (@ Texas, @ NY Mets, Toronto, @ Minnesota). ERA of 2.55 by my calculations

[TylerD]

Still jacko won't give the Sox credit lol

 

Thing I find funny with Jacko..... he’s obviously threatened by us.

 

No critic or sports analyst alive would have predicted the Sox to have the best record in baseball 30 some games into the season and first in the division..... yet here we are, and here the Yankees are, second last in the division. Yankees fans should be embarrassed that the Sox are on top of the division lol. Sure some of us die hards predicted a decent season and playoffs, but can anyone honestly say they thought we would have the number one record in all of baseball right now? Doubtful..... so whatever Yankees fans throw at us, I don’t really care. Jacko said a couple days ago, “Sox will be first for another week and then fall off” The fact that we are first at all is hilarious to me. Outside of a few Sox fans, nobody would have predicted this. A questionable bullpen, new additions to the rotation, no E Rod to start the season, Sale still injured.

 

Folks, this has been a magical carpet ride so far and I’m lovin it! The Yankees fans on my Facebook have never been so quiet lmfao it’s amazing. I’m sure once we slump, and Yanks get hot they will start talking again.....: but don’t let it get to you. I wasn’t expecting a ton this season and it has been fun as hell!!!! Let’s keep it going. Sports has been a good one for me. Oilers clinch a playoff spot too!! Bring down those bastard maple leafs and Canadiens and Jets!!!

[Bellhorn04]

Oilers clinch a playoff spot too!! Bring down those bastard maple leafs and Canadiens and Jets!!!

 

Have some mercy on the Leafs and their fans. They haven't won since 1967.

 

My poor brother-in-law is a Leafs fan, New York Jets fan and Detroit Tigers fan.

[Maxbialystock]

It's not all that important anymore, but it still has value and is "telling" in some regards over a long enough sample size like most recent 63 GS.

 

It's "telling" because you like where the Sox are and that ERod is sort of back after his health took a nosedive last year. Last night I loved the result, but not how he struggled and how he was helped by the boneheaded baserunning by Mullins in the 1st, to say nothing of the 4 unearned runs in the 4th.