what's left.... if any moves at all?

[Noles_1335]

There are still some arms available that are definitely worth looking at. BP arms ( Greene, Rosenthal, Jeffress) and SP arms ( Walker, Tehran)! Are we done with additions and just standing firm with what we have?

[mvp 78]

Maybe a bullpen arm? (Workman?)

 

Maybe a CFer or at least someone who can spell a guy there from time to time? (Pillar?)

 

Could get both of those and stay under the lux tax.

[notin]

Maybe a bullpen arm? (Workman?)

 

Maybe a CFer or at least someone who can spell a guy there from time to time? (Pillar?)

 

Could get both of those and stay under the lux tax.

 

The Sox do have two OF’s capable of CF. They still could bring in Pillar, or they could bring in a LHH OF to platoon in a corner with Renfroe. I like Gardner, but I would be extremely surprised if they sign him. Reddick is probably more likely than Gardner but less likely than Pillar.

 

Like to see Workman come back. And Brice depart...

[moonslav59]

Rosenthal will cost too much.

I still like the idea of trading for a 2Bman like Adam Frazier and signing Workman.

[notin]

Rosenthal will cost too much.

I still like the idea of trading for a 2Bman like Adam Frazier and signing Workman.

 

Frazier could also be a LHH OF platoon.

 

He’s a good player, but I would be surprised if the Sox acquired him. Maybe because it’s Feb 15th and I’m used to the off-season being basically over by now...

[moonslav59]

Frazier could also be a LHH OF platoon.

 

He’s a good player, but I would be surprised if the Sox acquired him. Maybe because it’s Feb 15th and I’m used to the off-season being basically over by now...

 

I say Frazier because Pitt has put him on the market. I’m sure there are others. We just need a 1 year fix.

[Kimmi]

There is definitely another BP arm coming.

[notin]

There is definitely another BP arm coming.

 

Counting Sawamura? MLBTR has the deal as close...

[Kimmi]

Counting Sawamura? MLBTR has the deal as close...

 

In addition to Sawamura.

 

I can see one more reliever being signed before any addition of a CF or a 2B.

[moonslav59]

In addition to Sawamura.

 

I can see one more reliever being signed before any addition of a CF or a 2B.

 

They’d have to cut Brice. The man with 9 lives.

[notin]

Pillar to the Mets...

[moonslav59]

Pillar to the Mets...

That was JBJs spot!

[notin]

That was JBJs spot!

 

JBJ is watching all the chairs fill up and the music is stopping.

 

His best potential seats now are probably with the Cubs, Astros, Phillies and Red Sox, with the names being selected via painstaking research as to what are the first 4 teams I could think of that might need a CF...

[notin]

They’d have to cut Brice. The man with 9 lives.

 

He can take the next eight elsewhere...

[mvp 78]

The Sox do have two OF’s capable of CF. They still could bring in Pillar, or they could bring in a LHH OF to platoon in a corner with Renfroe. I like Gardner, but I would be extremely surprised if they sign him. Reddick is probably more likely than Gardner but less likely than Pillar.

 

Like to see Workman come back. And Brice depart...

 

I just prefer Verdugo in RF. He handled it there in 2020.

[mvp 78]

JBJ is watching all the chairs fill up and the music is stopping.

 

His best potential seats now are probably with the Cubs, Astros, Phillies and Red Sox, with the names being selected via painstaking research as to what are the first 4 teams I could think of that might need a CF...

 

Renfroe/Francy - LF

JBJ - CF

Verdugo - RF

Devers - 3B

Xander - SS

Kiké - 2B

Dalbec - 1B

Vaz - C

 

It's a good lineup. Well, at least it's an interesting lineup. I just don't know if they'll do it.

[notin]

I just prefer Verdugo in RF. He handled it there in 2020.

 

Agreed, but I can see it not being the plan.

 

Although Bradley is running out of options and might very well be the Sox CF, at least for one more year...

[notin]

Renfroe/Francy - LF

JBJ - CF

Verdugo - RF

Devers - 3B

Xander - SS

Kiké - 2B

Dalbec - 1B

Vaz - C

 

It's a good lineup. Well, at least it's an interesting lineup. I just don't know if they'll do it.

 

It is certainly still possible.

 

I have Bradley's options down to 4 teams, maybe 5 if the White Sox will move Luis Robert to LF. And Boston is certainly one of them...

[notin]

Pillar got a $5mill AAV. Where does that price out Bradley?

[mvp 78]

Pillar got a $5mill AAV. Where does that price out Bradley?

 

JBJ wants 4/40.

 

Sox might do 2/15?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

JBJ wants 4/40.

 

Sox might do 2/15?

 

Don't you think someone else will give him three years? Will JBJ be the player Bloom finally thinks is worthy of a three-year? If the Sox are going to sign anyone this winter to three, wouldn't it make more sense -- going forward -- for it to be Odorizzi?

 

With two decent CF prospects in the pipeline, three years for a guy in his 30s goes against a frugal rebuild. Hard to believe, but it was just over eight years ago that Ben gave Victorino three for $38 million. Then they moved him to right field, where he won another Gold Glove.

[notin]

JBJ wants 4/40.

 

Sox might do 2/15?

 

Maybe. But JBJ is running out of options. I think Houston might top a 2/$15 offer.

 

I keep hearing the Mets are still in. How many CF's does one team need? They're going to give Brandon Nimmo a complex if they keep adding more after already bringing in Almora, Pillar and Khalil Lee.

 

No way the Mets still want Bradley. Boras priced him out of that market...

[notin]

Now are the Phillies the Dark Horse in the JBJ Sweepstakes?

 

No rumors to date that I have seen linking them to Bradley. But consider the following:

 

1. The Phillies missed the postseason last year.

2. The Marlins didn't.

3. They have added 0 new position players to their sub-.500 lineup.

4. Their starting CF is Scott Kingery.

4. Their other options are Adam Hasely and Roman Quinn

[mvp 78]

Don't you think someone else will give him three years? Will JBJ be the player Bloom finally thinks is worthy of a three-year? If the Sox are going to sign anyone this winter to three, wouldn't it make more sense -- going forward -- for it to be Odorizzi?

 

With two decent CF prospects in the pipeline, three years for a guy in his 30s goes against a frugal rebuild. Hard to believe, but it was just over eight years ago that Ben gave Victorino three for $38 million. Then they moved him to right field, where he won another Gold Glove.

 

Maybe someone will give him 3 years? It's hard to really say at this point. I think he'd be good for another team with more "payroll flexibility" but it's interesting that he hasn't signed yet.

[mvp 78]

Maybe. But JBJ is running out of options. I think Houston might top a 2/$15 offer.

 

I keep hearing the Mets are still in. How many CF's does one team need? They're going to give Brandon Nimmo a complex if they keep adding more after already bringing in Almora, Pillar and Khalil Lee.

 

No way the Mets still want Bradley. Boras priced him out of that market...

 

I think it's more likely that he goes to the Astros too.

[mvp 78]

The Sox need to sign JBJ to a 1 year deal and trade him at the deadline in order to fulfill the prophecy.

[notin]

I think it's more likely that he goes to the Astros too.

 

Astros, Phillies and Red Sox.

 

I do think the Sox are the least likely of the three...

[mvp 78]

Astros, Phillies and Red Sox.

 

I do think the Sox are the least likely of the three...

 

I don't know what to think of the Phillies. They are projecting to have CJ Chatham on the opening day roster. They have Jankowski as a NRI and Herrera in AAA eating $10M. Two 1st round picks Mickey Moniak 2016 and Cornelius Randolph 2015 ard also sitting in AAA.

 

I could see them not grabbing JBJ and it just being between the Astros and the Sox.

[mvp 78]

Astros currently have Myles Straw as projected to play CF. If he's the 2019 version, you go with him over JBJ. If he's the 2020 version, you go with JBJ.

 

They have a very clear need at CF though as there is nobody behind Straw that can field the position. As they are more likely to compete, they should be the ones to sign JBJ.

 

JBJ to the Stros?

 

Dyson to the Sox?

[notin]

Astros currently have Myles Straw as projected to play CF. If he's the 2019 version, you go with him over JBJ. If he's the 2020 version, you go with JBJ.

 

They have a very clear need at CF though as there is nobody behind Straw that can field the position. As they are more likely to compete, they should be the ones to sign JBJ.

 

JBJ to the Stros?

 

Dyson to the Sox?

 

Straw is a formal infielder with lightning speed. They can find multiple ways to get the 2019 version into the lineup.

 

The obvious other CF still looking for work is Brett Gardner, not Dyson, who is a career backup on a good day. Now if the Astros sign Gardner for CF, that really leaves JBJ scrambing, with his non-Sox options suddenly looking to include the Chunichi Dragons...