You Be the Sox GM!

[moonslav59]

For argument's sake, let's not quibble about the per year dollar amounts posted here (from MLBTR- BLUE = my estimates).

 

Pretend you are the Sox GM and you have $36M (per year) to spend on the following players. How would you spend it.

(For advanced players, assume we can spend $55M and stay below the second tax line.)

 

Assumed high need areas:

SP: 1-2

RP: 1-3 (including a closer)

2B: 1

CF: 1-2 (4th OF'er)

 

SP:

$13M x 3 Tanaka

$13M x 3 Odorizzi

$12M x 1 Kluber

$10M x 1 Paxton

$9M x 2 Quintana

$8M x 2 T Walker or G Richards

$6M x 1 JA Happ

$5M x 1 Lester or Porcello

$4M x 1 Cole Hamels

$4M x 1 Archer

$3M x 1 Martin Perez

 

Closer:

$10M x 3 Hendricks

$7M x 2 Hand or Rosenthal

 

RP:

$6M x 1 Colome

$5M x 1 Yates

$4M x 1 Melancon

$3M x 1 A Bradley, S Greene, J Jeffries

 

2B:

$14M x 1 Semien

$8M x 2 K Wong or La Stella

$7M x 1 Profar

$6M x 1 Cesar Hernandez

$3M x 1 Schoop, B Miller or E Hernandez

 

CF:

$8M x 2 JBJ

$4M x 1 Pillar

$2M x 1 Marisnik

 

Edited January 11, 2021 by moonslav59

[mvp 78]

How much does it pay? Benefits?

[moonslav59]

My choices:

 

$36M Budget:

13 Odorizzi

7 Hand

5 Lester

5 Yates

3 A Bradley

3 E Hernandez

 

$55M Budget:

13 Odorizzi

12 Kluber

8 K Wong

7 Hand

6 Colome

4 Pillar

3 A Bradley

2 Marisnik

 

[notin]

How much does it pay? Benefits?

 

No pay. But the benefits consist of having every move you make being second guessed by millions of people citing your complete incompetence and claiming that letting Blake Snell get away is proof of it.. .

[mvp 78]

No pay. But the benefits consist of having every move you make being second guessed by millions of people citing your complete incompetence and claiming that letting Blake Snell get away is proof of it.. .

 

Plus, finally being able to trade Pedroia.

[mvp 78]

If I had to spend 36M for each position:

Tanaka

Archer

Colome

Bradley

Caesar

Pillar

 

Otherwise, I'd not sign a 2b and replace Archer with Quintana (Arroyo/Chavis at 2b).

[moonslav59]

If I had to spend 36M for each position:

Tanaka

Archer

Colome

Bradley

Caesar

Pillar

 

Otherwise, I'd not sign a 2b and replace Archer with Quintana (Arroyo/Chavis at 2b).

 

Is the Bradley JBJ or Archie?

[Bellhorn04]

Is the Bradley JBJ or Archie?

 

In with Archie.

[mvp 78]

Is the Bradley JBJ or Archie?

 

Archie

[moonslav59]

Archie

 

I figured since you had Pillar.

 

I like your choices.

[moonslav59]

If I had to spend 36M for each position:

Tanaka

Archer

Colome

Bradley

Caesar

Pillar

 

Otherwise, I'd not sign a 2b and replace Archer with Quintana (Arroyo/Chavis at 2b).

 

What if you had $55M?

[mvp 78]

What if you had $55M?

 

Tanaka

Kluber

Porcello (moves EO and Houck to the pen)

Colome

Bradley

Wong

Bradley

[moonslav59]

Tanaka

Kluber

Porcello (moves EO and Houck to the pen)

Colome

Bradley

Wong

Bradley

 

Nice.

[notin]

Plus, finally being able to trade Pedroia.

 

Right. Should have dealt him straight up for Snell. Boy did Bloom really sleep through that one...

[mvp 78]

Right. Should have dealt him straight up for Snell. Boy did Bloom really sleep through that one...

 

Maybe just for Kiermaier since he has negative trade value. They'll just give him away! Pedroia can take care of the rays in the tanks.

[harmony]

The Red Sox could suffer long-term negative consequences by spending up to the CBT limit in this pedestrian free agent market.

[moonslav59]

Right. Should have dealt him straight up for Snell. Boy did Bloom really sleep through that one...

 

BTV has Kiermaier at -9.7 and Fairbanks at +9.4.

 

I'd give Chavis (7.5) and Chatham (1.9) straight up for the both, but if we could get TB to pay a little cash, it would be nice.

 

That's 9.4 for -0.3.

[moonslav59]

The Red Sox could suffer long-term negative consequences by spending up to the CBT limit in this pedestrian free agent market.

 

If we don't go over, the clock does not start, again, and if no deal are longer than 3 years, it can't get too bad. (many are 1 to 2 years.)

[mvp 78]

The Red Sox could suffer long-term negative consequences by spending up to the CBT limit in this pedestrian free agent market.

 

Or not.

 

Easy enough to stay under the limit. Lots of contracts coming off the books in the next two years: Pedroia, Price, JD, Eovaldi. That's 64M AAV savings.

[moonslav59]

Or not.

 

Easy enough to stay under the limit. Lots of contracts coming off the books in the next two years: Pedroia, Price, JD, Eovaldi. That's 64M AAV savings.

 

We really don't lose much after 2021: Pedey & Barnes. Rising Arb costs might eat all those savings up.

[mvp 78]

We really don't lose much after 2021: Pedey & Barnes. Rising Arb costs might eat all those savings up.

 

Clearly, the biggest part of the savings was after 2022, but I was just saying that you can stay under the CBT even if you get really close this year.

 

Also, we have NO idea what the CBT will look like under the new CBA. Current CBA expires this year.

[moonslav59]

Clearly, the biggest part of the savings was after 2022, but I was just saying that you can stay under the CBT even if you get really close this year.

 

Also, we have NO idea what the CBT will look like under the new CBA. Current CBA expires this year.

 

Good point. There may not even be a Lux tax anymore.

[notin]

BTV has Kiermaier at -9.7 and Fairbanks at +9.4.

 

I'd give Chavis (7.5) and Chatham (1.9) straight up for the both, but if we could get TB to pay a little cash, it would be nice.

 

That's 9.4 for -0.3.

 

If I'm running Tampa, I would rather have Kiermaier and Fairbanks - a starting CF and a closer - over two utility infielders..

[mvp 78]

Good point. There may not even be a Lux tax anymore.

 

I bet there will be, I just think it will be higher and/or the penalties will be much less severe.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

For argument's sake, let's not quibble about the per year dollar amounts posted here (from MLBTR- BLUE = my estimates).

 

Pretend you are the Sox GM and you have $36M (per year) to spend on the following players. How would you spend it.

(For advanced players, assume we can spend $55M and stay below the second tax line.)

 

Assumed high need areas:

SP: 1-2

RP: 1-3 (including a closer)

2B: 1

CF: 1-2 (4th OF'er)

 

SP:

$13M x 3 Tanaka

$13M x 3 Odorizzi

$12M x 1 Kluber

$10M x 1 Paxton

$9M x 2 Quintana

$8M x 2 T Walker or G Richards

$6M x 1 JA Happ

$5M x 1 Lester or Porcello

$4M x 1 Cole Hamels

$4M x 1 Archer

$3M x 1 Martin Perez

 

Closer:

$10M x 3 Hendricks

$7M x 2 Hand or Rosenthal

 

RP:

$6M x 1 Colome

$5M x 1 Yates

$4M x 1 Melancon

$3M x 1 A Bradley, S Greene, J Jeffries

 

2B:

$14M x 1 Semien

$8M x 2 K Wong or La Stella

$7M x 1 Profar

$6M x 1 Cesar Hernandez

$3M x 1 Schoop, B Miller or E Hernandez

 

CF:

$8M x 2 JBJ

$4M x 1 Pillar

$2M x 1 Marisnik

 

 

Odorizzi, Lester, Hand, Yates, Kike, Marisnick... the latter two are placeholders, the four pitchers are to hold my hair in place (what's left of it).

[notin]

I bet there will be, I just think it will be higher and/or the penalties will be much less severe.

 

And more physical.

 

If a team goes over the third limit for a second season, Manfred gets to shave off the GM's eyebrows...

[harmony]

I bet there will be, I just think it will be higher and/or the penalties will be much less severe.

With the owners crying pandemic-related poverty, the CBT threshold might remain the same or even go lower.

 

Or not.

[moonslav59]

With the owners crying pandemic-related poverty, the CBT threshold might remain the same or even go lower.

 

Or not.

 

I hope they set a minimum bar and penalize or withhold money from teams that fail to spend a certain amount.

 

I'm fine with the Lux Tax at about where it is, now.

[moonslav59]

And more physical.

 

If a team goes over the third limit for a second season, Manfred gets to shave off the GM's eyebrows...

 

I was hoping to see you give this challenge a try...

[Larry Cook]

How is the virus going to impact the new cba negotiations?

 

A ton of money had been lost in 2020 and a ton will be lost in 2021.

 

This is not going to be pretty!