Who Should the Sox Have Play 2B in 2020?

[mvp 78]

Globe reporting that Pedroia will announce retirement in the next two weeks.

[moonslav59]

Globe reporting that Pedroia will announce retirement in the next two weeks.

 

Sad ending to a great career.

[a700hitter]

Globe reporting that Pedroia will announce retirement in the next two weeks.

Did you buy a bottle of bubbly to celebrate?

[Kimmi]

Sad ending to a great career.

 

Very much so. I really hate to see a player not be able to retire on his own terms.

[oldtimer]

Very much so. I really hate to see a player not be able to retire on his own terms.

 

Life can be hard. We have to be thankful for what blessing we receive. He had many good years and he earned what he was able to accomplish.

[moonslav59]

Life can be hard. We have to be thankful for what blessing we receive. He had many good years and he earned what he was able to accomplish.

 

Well said.

[mvp 78]

Did you buy a bottle of bubbly to celebrate?

No, because it means he’ll never be traded.

[Larry Cook]

Globe reporting that Pedroia will announce retirement in the next two weeks.

 

Very sad! He was an incredible player for many years for us.

 

Hopefully he recovers enough to live an ordinary life going forward.

[Sox75]

Very sad!

[Sox75]

But.... things are looking up!

 

https://nesn.com/2021/01/chaim-bloom-red-sox-complete-trade-with-dave-dombrowski-phillies/

 

A player to be named? VERY EXCITING NEWS!

 

THIS could change everything!

[Larry Cook]

But.... things are looking up!

 

https://nesn.com/2021/01/chaim-bloom-red-sox-complete-trade-with-dave-dombrowski-phillies/

 

A player to be named? VERY EXCITING NEWS!

 

THIS could change everything!

 

I like this trade. Clearly bloom had no use for Chatham and managed to get something beats releasing him,

[Sox75]

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/please-stop-whining-about-dustin-pedroias-place-40-man-roster

 

https://www.overthemonster.com/2021/1/18/22235773/boston-red-sox-2021-preview-second-base-depth-chart-chavis-arroyo-aruaz-chatham

 

Where is the Globe story about Pedroia announcing retirement in 2 weeks?

[Sox75]

I like this trade. Clearly bloom had no use for Chatham and managed to get something beats releasing him,

 

How exactly do we know "a player to be named" is of equal or greater value to the Sox?

[moonslav59]

I like this trade. Clearly bloom had no use for Chatham and managed to get something beats releasing him,

 

I had Chatham high on my "next to be DFA'd" list, so maybe we get something good from Philly later on.

[oldtimer]

I had Chatham high on my "next to be DFA'd" list, so maybe we get something good from Philly later on.

 

It's sensible to let the guy go if he has a chance of playing in the majors for another team while he only represents depth for us at best. I had him as a utility infielder, who could fill in at 2nd, short and third. We have others so we let him go.

[notin]

I had Chatham high on my "next to be DFA'd" list, so maybe we get something good from Philly later on.

 

Chatham, Springs, Mazza, Walden.

 

There were other options, but he was absolutely a candidate. Getting something in return just made the call easier...

[notin]

How exactly do we know "a player to be named" is of equal or greater value to the Sox?

 

Because the PTBNL freed up a valuable 40 man roster spot, which has value in itself...

[notin]

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/please-stop-whining-about-dustin-pedroias-place-40-man-roster

 

https://www.overthemonster.com/2021/1/18/22235773/boston-red-sox-2021-preview-second-base-depth-chart-chavis-arroyo-aruaz-chatham

 

Where is the Globe story about Pedroia announcing retirement in 2 weeks?

 

 

Rotoworld is citing Pete Abraham

 

https://www.rotoworld.com/baseball/mlb/player/18115/dustin-pedroia

[mvp 78]

Chatham, Springs, Mazza, Walden.

 

There were other options, but he was absolutely a candidate. Getting something in return just made the call easier...

 

Potential cuts:

Brewer

Brice

Mazza

Springs

Walden

Pedroia

Wilson

[notin]

Potential cuts:

Brewer

Brice

Mazza

Springs

Walden

Pedroia

Wilson

 

I ca agree with those names.

 

And also add in that it is not difficult to see any of them clearing waivers and getting re-signed to an MiLB deal. Except Pedroia, but only because he would not be re-signed...

[mvp 78]

I ca agree with those names.

 

And also add in that it is not difficult to see any of them clearing waivers and getting re-signed to an MiLB deal. Except Pedroia, but only because he would not be re-signed...

 

I could see Walden getting picked up, but I don't think you'd fret about losing him.

 

If I was able to keep one of those players, it would be Mazza.

[notin]

I could see Walden getting picked up, but I don't think you'd fret about losing him.

 

If I was able to keep one of those players, it would be Mazza.

 

I'm not as high on Mazza as many are. While he was one of the best of the minor league pitching staf last eyar, the competition was not exactly daunting. Mazza strikes me as another Walden, a player who made a good first impression he will probably never be able to repeat. I would be far more surprised if he were able to maintain even his moderate success than if he were to just pitch his way off the roster.

 

I probably have more faith in Springs than Mazza. While Mazza has had the better MLB career, we are talking about 46 innings. Comparatively, Springs was actually better in the minors, which could mean over the long haul, might actually be better in the majors. He's also three years younger.

 

But no one on that list is irreplaceable, and finding the next one season flash in the pan is not that hard if you bring in enough candidates...

[mvp 78]

I'm not as high on Mazza as many are. While he was one of the best of the minor league pitching staf last eyar, the competition was not exactly daunting. Mazza strikes me as another Walden, a player who made a good first impression he will probably never be able to repeat. I would be far more surprised if he were able to maintain even his moderate success than if he were to just pitch his way off the roster.

 

I probably have more faith in Springs than Mazza. While Mazza has had the better MLB career, we are talking about 46 innings. Comparatively, Springs was actually better in the minors, which could mean over the long haul, might actually be better in the majors. He's also three years younger.

 

But no one on that list is irreplaceable, and finding the next one season flash in the pan is not that hard if you bring in enough candidates...

 

I don't think Mazza is head and shoulders above any of those guys. I thought Springs looked like an MLB reliever at times last year. However, I don't want him closing out games like they had him do in 2020.

 

You could probably make a case for any of those guys staying instead of the others (except for Pedroia).

[notin]

I don't think Mazza is head and shoulders above any of those guys. I thought Springs looked like an MLB reliever at times last year. However, I don't want him closing out games like they had him do in 2020.

 

You could probably make a case for any of those guys staying instead of the others (except for Pedroia).

 

And you could make an equally convincing case for getting rid of all of them...

[moonslav59]

Potential cuts:

Brewer

Brice

Mazza

Springs

Walden

Pedroia

Wilson

 

That shows just how crappy the bottom of our 40 man roster is.

 

I could add 4-6 more names of players I would not fret over losing for nothing in return.

[mvp 78]

That shows just how crappy the bottom of our 40 man roster is.

 

I could add 4-6 more names of players I would not fret over losing for nothing in return.

 

Who?

[moonslav59]

Who?

 

Besides these 7:

Brewer

Brice

Mazza

Springs

Walden

Pedroia

Wilson

 

(Not for DFA'ing necessarily, but no loss if we traded them for a PTBNL):

Arauz

Valdez

Payamps

Whitlock (send back as rule 5)

 

I wouldn't mind trading these guys for prospects:

Brasier (assuming we add 1-2 RP'ers)

Beni (assuming we add 1-2 OF'ers)

Chavis or Arroyo (assuming we add a 2Bman)

 

Deadline?

Barnes

Eovaldi

JD

 

 

 

[mvp 78]

Besides these 7:

Brewer

Brice

Mazza

Springs

Walden

Pedroia

Wilson

 

(Not for DFA'ing necessarily, but no loss if we traded them for a PTBNL):

Arauz

Valdez

Payamps

Whitlock (send back as rule 5)

 

I wouldn't mind trading these guys for prospects:

Brasier (assuming we add 1-2 RP'ers)

Beni (assuming we add 1-2 OF'ers)

Chavis or Arroyo (assuming we add a 2Bman)

 

Deadline?

Barnes

Eovaldi

JD

 

 

 

 

When you said "lose for nothing" I didn't realize you meant PTBNL.

[moonslav59]

When you said "lose for nothing" I didn't realize you meant PTBNL.

 

If we added 8 players and DFA'd the 7 on your list plus one from mine, I wouldn't be upset.

 

We may end up sending Whitlock back, despite having tons of roster space.

Valdez could be a flash in the pan. I'm not confident he's anything better than a replacement level player.

Payamps, to be honest, I'm not even sure why we added tis guy.

Arauz is young and looks good on D. He's borderline, but if we sign a 2Bman, one of Chavis, Arroyo or Arauz should go, one way or another.

 

The only reason the 4 guys on my list aren't on your list is because we'll never need to replace 8-11 players on the 40 man roster.

 

We may sign 2-4 players and trade for 2-3 players (without giving up a 40 man player) and still never get to my list.

[mvp 78]

I don't think there's a chance they give up on Whitlock. It's easy enough to stash a Rule V guy, especially now that rosters are larger and they'll need all the arms they can get with a 6 man rotation.