War on WAR

[Maxbialystock]

I'm doing this on the Talk Sox forum because I'm focusing on just one guy, Rafael Devers, and one team the Sox.

 

I've tended to view WAR favorably because it does try to include the whole player in that one stat.

 

But I just looked at the Sox stats to date and discovered that so far Rafael Devers is absolute poison for the Sox with a WAR of -0.8, which is easily the worst on the team. Next worse is JDM at -.5 and after him Peraza at -0.4.

 

Granted, he has 9 errors, but he also is second on the team in total bases--59 to Bogie's 66--3d in RBI's, and 4th among regulars in OPS.

 

Meanwhile, every single pitcher on the Sox woebegone staff has a better WAR than Devers. Please don't tell me that's apple and oranges because the whole idea of WAR--wins above replacement--is to allow comparisons between all players.

 

Anybody want to join my war on WAR?

[notin]

I'm doing this on the Talk Sox forum because I'm focusing on just one guy, Rafael Devers, and one team the Sox.

 

I've tended to view WAR favorably because it does try to include the whole player in that one stat.

 

But I just looked at the Sox stats to date and discovered that so far Rafael Devers is absolute poison for the Sox with a WAR of -0.8, which is easily the worst on the team. Next worse is JDM at -.5 and after him Peraza at -0.4.

 

Granted, he has 9 errors, but he also is second on the team in total bases--59 to Bogie's 66--3d in RBI's, and 4th among regulars in OPS.

 

Meanwhile, every single pitcher on the Sox woebegone staff has a better WAR than Devers. Please don't tell me that's apple and oranges because the whole idea of WAR--wins above replacement--is to allow comparisons between all players.

 

Anybody want to join my war on WAR?

 

 

Fangraphs gives Devers -0.1 fWAR. And a big reason has been his defensive play, which has him dead last in Defensinve runs Saved among MLB thid basemen and 16th of 18 qualifying 3B in UZR/150.

 

Of course, you're only comparison is of Devers to other Sox hitters. His replacement value is positional, so Peraza and Martinez, etc. are scored relative to different players than Devers...

[Bellhorn04]

Fangraphs gives Devers -0.1 fWAR. And a big reason has been his defensive play, which has him dead last in Defensinve runs Saved among MLB thid basemen and 16th of 18 qualifying 3B in UZR/150.

 

Of course, you're only comparison is of Devers to other Sox hitters. His replacement value is positional, so Peraza and Martinez, etc. are scored relative to different players than Devers...

 

You should post this on the more popular thread.

[mvp 78]

WAR on people who don't know how to start new threads.

[moonslav59]

I'll join the war against the war on WAR.

[mvp 78]

I'll join the war against the war on WAR.

 

We've always been at war with the war on WAR.

[moonslav59]

We've always been at war with the war on WAR.

 

Yes. It's been warlike.

[S5Dewey]

I'll join the war against the war on WAR.

 

I think my position on WAR has been pretty well documented.

[Kimmi]

I think my position on WAR has been pretty well documented.

 

Nothing like the war on WAR to bring Dewey back.