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Then is a good prospect, albeit far from the bigs and was initially signed by the M’s. This reeks of keep-away, to be totally honest. We don’t need him. His $3.4 mil cap hit it a nothing. But if the Rays or Astros got him, that would have hurt more
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Lets see if the return is as big as harmony hoped it would be, and if the Sox has enough to match it.

 

hopefully he give us some update on Sheffield while at it.

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Then is a good prospect, albeit far from the bigs and was initially signed by the M’s. This reeks of keep-away, to be totally honest. We don’t need him. His $3.4 mil cap hit it a nothing. But if the Rays or Astros got him, that would have hurt more

 

Even if that’s the case, the Mariners would still have been smarter to hold out to see what Houston, Tampa, Milwaukee, whoever would have given up for Edwin.

 

Either interest in Encarnacion was vastly overstated (which can change with one injury), or the Mariners are impatient and stupid.

 

Or both...

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Even if that’s the case, the Mariners would still have been smarter to hold out to see what Houston, Tampa, Milwaukee, whoever would have given up for Edwin.

 

Either interest in Encarnacion was vastly overstated (which can change with one injury), or the Mariners are impatient and stupid.

 

Or both...

 

The issues with EE's back may have forced their hand.

 

But certainly impatience and stupidity could be in the mix.

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The issues with EE's back may have forced their hand.

 

But certainly impatience and stupidity could be in the mix.

 

 

Worst case scenario for the Mariners was Encarnacion couldn’t play and they were forced to have a player worth paying to see for the rest of this one season.

 

But apparently they were not willing to take on the risk of having a baseball player worth paying to see...

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The Yankees are collapsing right in front of Cashman's eyes and so he makes this deal out of desperation.....

 

The fact that no one wanted Encarnacion, allowing the Yankees to acquire him rather cheaply, should send a message to JD Martinez regarding his opt out decision. These DH types who can't play defense aren't highly valued anymore. Martinez would be a fool to opt out.

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The Yankees are collapsing right in front of Cashman's eyes and so he makes this deal out of desperation.....

 

The fact that no one wanted Encarnacion, allowing the Yankees to acquire him rather cheaply, should send a message to JD Martinez regarding his opt out decision. These DH types who can't play defense aren't highly valued anymore. Martinez would be a fool to opt out.

 

You’re an idiot

Posted
The issues with EE's back may have forced their hand.

 

But certainly impatience and stupidity could be in the mix.

 

Back injuries are hard to evaluate.

 

I think the price went down due to injury concerns.

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The price went down due to money and positional limitations. I’m still a bit baffled as to the need. My one conspiracy here is that the Yanks got EE with the mindset of moving Frazier for pitching so they could have depth in the lineup
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Wanna see something sick??

 

Lineup once everyone returns

 

1. Lemahieu 3B

2. Judge RF

3. Gregorius SS

4. Stanton LF

5. Sánchez C

6. Voit 1B

7. Encarnacion DH

8. Torres 2B

9. Hicks CF

 

Urshela and Gardner ready whenever

 

What a sick lineup, wow

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The price went down due to money and positional limitations. I’m still a bit baffled as to the need. My one conspiracy here is that the Yanks got EE with the mindset of moving Frazier for pitching so they could have depth in the lineup

 

 

They could have moved Frazier anyway. Not like EE plays his position,and with the possibility of Dtanton and Judge returning soon, it1) an odd time to get EE and 2) likely Frazier was looking at a demotion anyway.

 

The notion the Yankees only acquired him to keep him out of Boston, Houston and Tampa is silly. First of all, you can’t go out acquiring every player that l will help your rivals; they’re too many options. And second, don’t you think Seattle pushed him on the teams with obvious needs? DiPoto has heard of the Astros. He might have even worked for them once. He called. They hung up...

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Frazier is staring at a demotion. Not because he should be, just that he’s squeezed out with our current squad. He’s been awesome offensively

 

Part of my point

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It's a tough break for the kid. His .855OPS would be 5th on your squad, right there with Devers and Moreland and ahead of Betts. Yet he's the odd man out. I hope he takes this well and goes down to work on his defense. That is the one flaw in his game. He's not a burner and won't steal bases, but he is a good runner capable of showing good range and going 1st to third or scoring from second. He's got a cannon for an arm. He has lightning quick wrists and power to spare. He just takes the worst routes and makes bad reads, usually in a reckless manner. If he can be controlled in the field, he will have a future here. If he isn't shipped out, he is gonna be our starting LFer next yr
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Encarnacion would have taken over 1b with Chavis moving to 2b and allowing your lineup to be more dangerous. He was definitely a target for the sox, but the money was too much to handle. With where the sox are in terms of lux tax, they don't have the means to add more than one piece that costs money
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Encarnacion would have taken over 1b with Chavis moving to 2b and allowing your lineup to be more dangerous. He was definitely a target for the sox, but the money was too much to handle. With where the sox are in terms of lux tax, they don't have the means to add more than one piece that costs money

 

The problem is EE can't play 1B everyday and maybe not even most days, especially if his back continues acting up.

 

We have a DH who should only DH. His name is JD Martinez.

 

While I would have liked to have had EE on our roster, I think we need pitching more than a DH/1Bman.

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Frazier is staring at a demotion. Not because he should be, just that he’s squeezed out with our current squad. He’s been awesome offensively

 

Clint Frazier can hit Triple-A pitching, he just isn't overly productive against major league pitching. Take away Frazier's 30 at bats against Baltimore this year (a Triple-A pitching staff) and his 28 at bats against Kansas City's Triple-A pitching staff and you begin to see why he isn't exactly an offensive juggernaut. It goes without saying that the guy is a complete train wreck defensively. Cashman will try to move him for an SP--it'll be interesting to see if he can find a sucker for a guy who just isn't a very good baseball player.

 

There is a peculiar dynamic going on in the AL this year, with several teams going through a rebuild with rosters consisting of Triple-A players rather than legitimate major league players. This has probably also been a factor in the top-heavy records of some of the AL teams.

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I would have liked to see the Sox get Encarnacion. I think most Sox fans would agree . It is kind of disingenuous to say otherwise.

 

 

I would have loved it, especially if all the Sox gave up was some long shot sub-A-ball teenager...

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Encarnacion would have taken over 1b with Chavis moving to 2b and allowing your lineup to be more dangerous. He was definitely a target for the sox, but the money was too much to handle. With where the sox are in terms of lux tax, they don't have the means to add more than one piece that costs money

 

 

The real problem is that Mitch Moreland is still alive and under contract. So 1b was never anything the Sox were thinking about...

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They could have moved Frazier anyway. Not like EE plays his position,and with the possibility of Dtanton and Judge returning soon, it1) an odd time to get EE and 2) likely Frazier was looking at a demotion anyway.

 

The notion the Yankees only acquired him to keep him out of Boston, Houston and Tampa is silly. First of all, you can’t go out acquiring every player that l will help your rivals; they’re too many options. And second, don’t you think Seattle pushed him on the teams with obvious needs? DiPoto has heard of the Astros. He might have even worked for them once. He called. They hung up...

 

Not only that, Encarncion has been on the trade market forever. It was well known that the Mariners wanted to move him right after acquiring him.

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Clint Frazier can hit Triple-A pitching, he just isn't overly productive against major league pitching. Take away Frazier's 30 at bats against Baltimore this year (a Triple-A pitching staff) and his 28 at bats against Kansas City's Triple-A pitching staff and you begin to see why he isn't exactly an offensive juggernaut. It goes without saying that the guy is a complete train wreck defensively. Cashman will try to move him for an SP--it'll be interesting to see if he can find a sucker for a guy who just isn't a very good baseball player.

 

There is a peculiar dynamic going on in the AL this year, with several teams going through a rebuild with rosters consisting of Triple-A players rather than legitimate major league players. This has probably also been a factor in the top-heavy records of some of the AL teams.

 

 

Lol, you’re such a moron. You’ve hated Frazier since we got him and now that he’s hitting big league pitching, you’re pulling small sample sizes. You’re such a troll

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Encarnacion is leading the league in home runs. The Yankees got him for a marginal prospect. They will be paying him less than we are paying Pearce . How any Sox fan can be happy about this is beyond me.
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Encarnacion is leading the league in home runs. The Yankees got him for a marginal prospect. They will be paying him less than we are paying Pearce . How any Sox fan can be happy about this is beyond me.
i am not happy at all about this. Encarnacion has always been a wrecking ball at Fenway.
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Encarnacion is leading the league in home runs. The Yankees got him for a marginal prospect. They will be paying him less than we are paying Pearce . How any Sox fan can be happy about this is beyond me.

 

Not happy at all. And while I suspect Mitch Moreland was the reason the Sox passed, that’s not enough in my eyes...

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I think Encarnacion kills everyone, the dude can straight up hit. I guess the positive of him heading to Yankees is I own him in fantasy and I assume this is big boost for his value.

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