Stanton & Andujar to the 10 days IL

[Carpin]

This sucks, Keuchel was a big miss from Cashman

[jacksonianmarch]

Judge to start a rehab this upcoming weekend. Stanton to start tomorrow.

[jacksonianmarch]

Stanton, 2 homers in 2 games on his rehab stint. Plan is for him to join the club after the CWS series

[Carpin]

Now that Stanton is coming back, let's revisit who's still there

 

Miguel Andújar, 3B

Expected return: 2020

Season-ending surgery on May 20 to repair a partially torn labrum in his right shoulder.

 

Jake Barrett, RHP

Expected return: TBD

Right flexor strain and is currently rehabbing. (Updated: June 1)

 

Dellin Betances, RHP

Expected return: July

Right shoulder impingement and low-grade strain of his lat muscle (Updated: June 13)

 

Greg Bird, 1B

Expected return: TBD

Tore the plantar fascia in his left foot (Updated: June 5)

 

Jacoby Ellsbury, OF

Expected return: TBD

Arthroscopic surgery to repair his left hip labrum (Updated: June 2)

 

Domingo Germán, RHP

Expected return: TBD

Left hip flexor strain (Updated: June 10)

 

Ben Heller, RHP

Expected return: June

Tommy John surgery (Updated: May 22)

 

Aaron Judge, RF

Expected return: Late June

Significant strain of his left oblique (Updated: June 14)

 

Jonathan Loaisiga, RHP

Expected return: July

Right rotator cuff strain (Updated: June 5)

 

Jordan Montgomery, LHP

Expected return: July

Tommy John surgery (Updated: April 27)

 

Kendrys Morales, DH

Expected return: June

Left calf strain. (Updated: June 13)

 

Luis Severino, RHP

Expected return: Second half

Right rotator cuff inflammation and Grade 2 strain of his right latissimus muscle. (Updated: June 10)

 

Troy Tulowitzki, SS

Expected return: TBD

Left calf strain (Updated: June 10)

[Carpin]

In my opinion, the next players won't be back with the team:

 

Tulo will retire

Kendry will be DFA

Ellsbury will be released next year

[bkzwhitestrican]

Sevy to start throwing off a mound next week. Which means he probably won't get into sim/rehab games until mid July, so early August is probably a realistic return date barring any setbacks.

[jacksonianmarch]

Montgomery exited live BP after 15 pitches due to arm discomfort

[jacksonianmarch]

Judge expected to be activated Friday. The lineup will be complete for 2019.

 

1. Lemahieu 3B

2. Judge RF

3. Sanchez C

4. Stanton LF

5. Encarnacion DH

6. Voit 1B

7. Gregorius SS

8. Hicks CF

9. Torres SS

 

Urshela and Gardner waiting in the wings. This is an awesome lineup. They can be patient and aggressive. Hit for power and contact. The meshing of the team is absolutely incredible. This is a championship lineup. The rotation... not so much

[moonslav59]

They'll trade for a top SP'er at some point this summer.

[jacksonianmarch]

That’s my expectation. I just don’t want a rental unless Sevy returns and is himself. I had Montgomery penciled into next season’s rotation, but if he's one of the 20% or so who have complications and never comes back right, we’ll need someone for 2020 too. And if we’re going to spend prospect capital, we might as well do it for someone who’s gonna be around for a bit.

 

I like our 2-3 in the playoffs. I do think Paxton and Tanaka are good pitchers and Tanaka especially has been a lights out pitcher in the post season. But we either need Sevy to be Sevy or get someone who could be

[moonslav59]

That’s my expectation. I just don’t want a rental unless Sevy returns and is himself. I had Montgomery penciled into next season’s rotation, but if he's one of the 20% or so who have complications and never comes back right, we’ll need someone for 2020 too. And if we’re going to spend prospect capital, we might as well do it for someone who’s gonna be around for a bit.

 

I like our 2-3 in the playoffs. I do think Paxton and Tanaka are good pitchers and Tanaka especially has been a lights out pitcher in the post season. But we either need Sevy to be Sevy or get someone who could be

 

What happened to you high hopes for Happ? I remember when I mentioned his age has increased the chances he's due for a decline and possibly a steep one, you poo-poo'd the idea.

 

Your everyday players and pen are solid-- more than solid.

 

Only the rotation can keep you guys from being the playoff favorites.

 

My guess is, you guys go very big for a top SP'er like Scherzer.

[jacksonianmarch]

What happened to you high hopes for Happ? I remember when I mentioned his age has increased the chances he's due for a decline and possibly a steep one, you poo-poo'd the idea.

 

Your everyday players and pen are solid-- more than solid.

 

Only the rotation can keep you guys from being the playoff favorites.

 

My guess is, you guys go very big for a top SP'er like Scherzer.

 

Happ and CC are what they are. I said it from the beginning and during the offseason. They're 5 inning pitchers. Limited risk, money wasn't insane, so Happ's deal was fine. Do I want him on the mound in anything but a game 4 of the postseason, absolutely not

[moonslav59]

Happ and CC are what they are. I said it from the beginning and during the offseason. They're 5 inning pitchers. Limited risk, money wasn't insane, so Happ's deal was fine. Do I want him on the mound in anything but a game 4 of the postseason, absolutely not

 

I remember differently, when last winter, I was questioning Happ and CC. You kept bringing up Happ's great, recent numbers.

Edited June 20, 2019 by moonslav59

[jacksonianmarch]

When I posted my wish list I had said Happ was a good 5 inning pitcher for us and with our great pen, he’s a fine fit. That hasn’t changed

[moonslav59]

When I posted my wish list I had said Happ was a good 5 inning pitcher for us and with our great pen, he’s a fine fit. That hasn’t changed

 

I remember saying he was due for a set back year, and you disagreed.

[jacksonianmarch]

I remember saying he was due for a set back year, and you disagreed.

 

I don’t think he’s having a setback year. I expect him to be akin to Porcello with less innings. 30 starts, 170IP or so, 4.2 ish ERA

[moonslav59]

I don’t think he’s having a setback year. I expect him to be akin to Porcello with less innings. 30 starts, 170IP or so, 4.2 ish ERA

 

Come on. This guy was great for you guys last year and has these ERAs since 2015:

3.61

3.18

3.53

3.65 (2.69 with the Yanks)

4.59 this year

 

WHIP last year 1.13

WHIP this year 1.21

 

He's doing significantly worse than last year, 2017, 2016 and 2015. And, he's doing worse that you expected him to be doing.

[jacksonianmarch]

Come on. This guy was great for you guys last year and has these ERAs since 2015:

3.61

3.18

3.53

3.65 (2.69 with the Yanks)

4.59 this year

 

WHIP last year 1.13

WHIP this year 1.21

 

He's doing significantly worse than last year, 2017, 2016 and 2015. And, he's doing worse that you expected him to be doing.

 

It's not terribly significant especially since we aren't even at the halfway point. He had a terrible March start, a representative April, a bad May (albeit 4-1) and a good June thus far. In the 3 yrs prior to this one, he has had a significantly better ERA post ASB than before.

[moonslav59]

It's not terribly significant especially since we aren't even at the halfway point. He had a terrible March start, a representative April, a bad May (albeit 4-1) and a good June thus far. In the 3 yrs prior to this one, he has had a significantly better ERA post ASB than before.

 

Nice spin.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree.

[jacksonianmarch]

I will agree that he hasn't been what he was the years prior, but that's assuming he continues at this pace the whole year. If he finished the year with a mid 4's ERA, I will say you were right

[moonslav59]

I will agree that he hasn't been what he was the years prior, but that's assuming he continues at this pace the whole year. If he finished the year with a mid 4's ERA, I will say you were right

 

I can agree to this, but I thought it was implied I meant only "so far this year."

[Carpin]

Updated list, with Judge back in the lineup and Kendry DFA, next are the ones still in the IL:

 

Miguel Andújar, 3B

Expected return: 2020

Season-ending surgery on May 20 to repair a partially torn labrum in his right shoulder.

 

Jake Barrett, RHP

Expected return: TBD

Right flexor strain and is currently rehabbing. (Updated: June 1)

 

Dellin Betances, RHP

Expected return: July

Right shoulder impingement and low-grade strain of his lat muscle (Updated: June 13)

 

Greg Bird, 1B

Expected return: TBD

Tore the plantar fascia in his left foot (Updated: June 5)

 

Jacoby Ellsbury, OF

Expected return: TBD

Arthroscopic surgery to repair his left hip labrum (Updated: June 2)

 

Domingo Germán, RHP

Expected return: TBD

Left hip flexor strain (Updated: June 10)

 

Ben Heller, RHP

Expected return: June

Tommy John surgery (Updated: May 22)

 

Jonathan Loaisiga, RHP

Expected return: July

Right rotator cuff strain (Updated: June 5)

 

Jordan Montgomery, LHP

Expected return: July

Tommy John surgery (Updated: April 27)

 

Luis Severino, RHP

Expected return: Second half

Right rotator cuff inflammation and Grade 2 strain of his right latissimus muscle. (Updated: June 10)

 

Troy Tulowitzki, SS

Expected return: TBD

Left calf strain (Updated: June 10)

[bkzwhitestrican]

There's no new updates here, all you did was remove Judge and Morales

[Carpin]

I know

[jacksonianmarch]

Stanton out of the game after getting his left hand stepped on. Awesome

[bkzwhitestrican]

Sucks but doesn't seem like something that would keep him out long. Unless his hand was broken when the guy came down on it.

[jacksonianmarch]

I bet he’s sore and likely has a cut. Won’t be out long as long as he isn’t broken, I agree

[bkzwhitestrican]

Now they say it's his knee and he's going for an MRI. Good grief.

[jacksonianmarch]

It's a contusion. MRI is precautionary. With all the days off coming up, I wouldn't be surprised if he is IL'd and returns after the break

[jacksonianmarch]

No IL. He’ll sit tonight but all signs point towards him being in the lineup vs the sox