Who are you feeling most confident with pitching in the playoffs?

[Slasher9]

for 80 years the Yankees were the hammer and the Sox the nail. then 2004 happened. ever since then the Sox have been the hammer and the Yankees the nail.

its easy to see....Yankees fans now say what Sox fans used to say "wait until next year!; "our farm is better!"; "we won WS before!".

 

Red Sox = Hammer

Yankees = Nail

 

i will let you know when/if this changes.....

[BillyWilliams]

100% truth.

 

Incorrect according to MLB

[BillyWilliams]

Look, I don't have any problems with your posting. You and Jacko need to collect the other Yankee trash that post on here though.

 

Sorry that you are so thin skinned, I'll try to be a little nicer...........

[BillyWilliams]

for 80 years the Yankees were the hammer and the Sox the nail. then 2004 happened. ever since then the Sox have been the hammer and the Yankees the nail.

its easy to see....Yankees fans now say what Sox fans used to say "wait until next year!; "our farm is better!"; "we won WS before!".

 

Red Sox = Hammer

Yankees = Nail

 

i will let you know when/if this changes.....

 

And I'll let you know when your opinion actually matters to me .........

[Slasher9]

Incorrect according to MLB

 

enjoy your playin game.

playin = trying to get into the playoffs. i could give a rats ass what MLB says. playoffs start with the division series.

[BillyWilliams]

enjoy your playin game.

playin = trying to get into the playoffs. i could give a rats ass what MLB says. playoffs start with the division series.

 

Well, since we are talking about Major League Baseball I'll go with what MLB says, not what some wannabe from new jersey says ..........

[mvp 78]

enjoy your playin game.

playin = trying to get into the playoffs. i could give a rats ass what MLB says. playoffs start with the division series.

 

truth

[moonslav59]

Not at all.

 

My post was more tongue in cheek.

 

It was the only thing you had to use when viewing Sox-Yankee history since the Henry era began.

 

"tongue and meek" maybe.

[Slasher9]

Well, since we are talking about Major League Baseball I'll go with what MLB says, not what some wannabe from new jersey says ..........

 

tick, tock. its only a matter of time babe. although something tells me after tonight we wont see you for awhile......

[TylerD]

So far, the playoffs have gone with very good pitching. The highest run total was run up by the Dodgers at 5. Last night was 2 to 1 in 13 innings. Both those clubs have their share of good hitters. The point is that pitching and defense are critical in the PO's and a team will only go as far as their pitching takes them.

 

This.

 

Which is a big reason why we haven't made it out of the first round two years in a row. None of our pitchers could make it out of 4 innings last year. Porcello might have but I can't remember. You need a Lester type outing from last night plus the bats to come alive in order to get these wins come playoffs. For us even more crucial that our starters can go 6 innings or more as our bullpen is a struggle.

[moonslav59]

 

This.

 

Which is a big reason why we haven't made it out of the first round two years in a row. None of our pitchers could make it out of 4 innings last year. Porcello might have but I can't remember. You need a Lester type outing from last night plus the bats to come alive in order to get these wins come playoffs. For us even more crucial that our starters can go 6 innings or more as our bullpen is a struggle.

 

Our starters will be very rested, so there's no reason to blame fatigue for any possible bad outings.

 

I'm cautiously optimistic we can get 5-6 from Sale and 6-7 from Price & Porcello.

[Bellhorn04]

enjoy your playin game.

playin = trying to get into the playoffs. i could give a rats ass what MLB says. playoffs start with the division series.

 

truth

 

I've actually come around to this line of thinking myself.

[TylerD]

Why cut it off at 2001 if you're gonna go that far back??? I wonder.

 

Past 10 years: Yankees 1 WS win, Sox 1 WS win. See how that works?

 

Because a lot of us were around to see the World Series 14 years ago and 11 years ago. I would have been 17 and 20 at the time. It's still relatively relevant. Going back to the 90's where the Yankees won 3 World Series is a distant memory to a lot of people. I barely remember anything of the 90's when it comes to baseball.

[BillyWilliams]

truth

 

Ummm, are the stats from the WC included in the players' regular season stats?

[TylerD]

Winning the division does mean something. But let's be real. Both our franchises have won enough that they are past the point where division titles are of much relevance. Obviously the Sox have had better regular seasons than the Yankees these past three years. But what did it matter in the end? Nobody remembers the teams that don't at least make it to the WS.

 

Teams like the Braves and Brewers will cherish those division titles since they're pretty rare for them. Our teams aim higher.

 

Can't say I actually agree. Because the Sox and Yankees are so good it's a rare thing to see them miss playoffs. So many people said how strange it was to not see the Yankees in the playoffs 2 years ago. You could bet if the Sox fail to make playoffs next year it would be talked about. It's not a huge accomplishment after winning 3 World Series in the last 14 years but it's still damn impressive considering how hard it is to make playoffs and even one step further win the division.

[BillyWilliams]

tick, tock. its only a matter of time babe. although something tells me after tonight we wont see you for awhile......

 

2 more things to add to the extensive list of things you are wrong about......

[mvp 78]

I've actually come around to this line of thinking myself.

 

[Slasher9]

i've actually come around to this line of thinking myself.

 

we accept you, one of us!

 

all your base are belong to us

[Maxbialystock]

Our starters will be very rested, so there's no reason to blame fatigue for any possible bad outings.

 

I'm cautiously optimistic we can get 5-6 from Sale and 6-7 from Price & Porcello.

 

The last time Sale went 5 was August 12 and he has had four starts, 12 innings, and 5 earned runs since then. In his last two starts he went 9 innings total and gave up 5 earned runs. Plus his velocity was way down last time. His ALDS ERA last year was 8.38.

 

Price has done better, agreed. Last two starts vs Orioles and Yankees, however, he went 5.0 and 5.1 and gave up 5 dingers total. The 10 starts right before those, however, were mostly 6 and 7 innings plus two for 8 (Cleveland and Philly). Last year Price was great in the bullpen in the ALDS--6.2 innings, 0 runs. But he was a disaster in 2016 starting--3.1 innings, 5 runs.

 

All Porcello's September starts--5 of them--were 5.2 or less innings. August better--5, 5, 7, 7, 4, and 9--but he gave up 21 runs with an ERA of 5.11. July the same. His ALDS ERA last year was 4.5 and the year before 10.4.

 

I am not optimistic but, as always, I admire your positive spin.

[Maxbialystock]

About tonight's game. Oakland is going with their bullpen, not a starter. Terrible idea--I read it right here on talksox. No way, no how can you win a MLB game, especially a wild card game, by starting a reliever. The only guys relieved tonight will be the Yankees fans. Their team almost doesn't have to show up.

 

Well maybe the A's lineup can get to Severino. If so, maybe they can save Bob Melvin's job.

[TylerD]

The last time Sale went 5 was August 12 and he has had four starts, 12 innings, and 5 earned runs since then. In his last two starts he went 9 innings total and gave up 5 earned runs. Plus his velocity was way down last time. His ALDS ERA last year was 8.38.

 

Price has done better, agreed. Last two starts vs Orioles and Yankees, however, he went 5.0 and 5.1 and gave up 5 dingers total. The 10 starts right before those, however, were mostly 6 and 7 innings plus two for 8 (Cleveland and Philly). Last year Price was great in the bullpen in the ALDS--6.2 innings, 0 runs. But he was a disaster in 2016 starting--3.1 innings, 5 runs.

 

All Porcello's September starts--5 of them--were 5.2 or less innings. August better--5, 5, 7, 7, 4, and 9--but he gave up 21 runs with an ERA of 5.11. July the same. His ALDS ERA last year was 4.5 and the year before 10.4.

 

I am not optimistic but, as always, I admire your positive spin.

 

Porcello is the biggest question mark to me right now. Even with Sale's velocity down I still trust Sale can get a lot of strikeouts and keep the game in reach through 5 or 6 innings. Porcello you just never know what to expect from him. The damage he causes is always early on in games and then he settles down. The trouble is, come playoff time if Porcello gives up a couple runs early they might yank him after just a couple innings or 3 innings. Porcello started the year red hot and looked like his 2016 self but recently his ERA has gone way down and he gives up way too many early dingers which could hurt us come playoff time.

[Bellhorn04]

About tonight's game. Oakland is going with their bullpen, not a starter. Terrible idea--I read it right here on talksox. No way, no how can you win a MLB game, especially a wild card game, by starting a reliever.

 

Nobody actually said that though.

[redsoxrules]

I actually think it's a great idea by the A's. Bullpen is their strength. Makes it more difficult for hitters to adjust.

[Bellhorn04]

There's a pretty good chance the A's would have started Manaea if he wasn't lost to injury.

[Maxbialystock]

Nobody actually said that though.

 

Decades ago I got a degree English, which automatically allowed me to take poetic license. You got your metaphors, your similes, your oxymorons, and of course your hyperboles. I really like them hyperboles.

[TylerD]

I actually think it's a great idea by the A's. Bullpen is their strength. Makes it more difficult for hitters to adjust.

 

Agreed with this. Tough to game plan for an entire bullpen. Oakland hasn't exactly been the most successful team come playoff time so hopefully it works out for them. Could you imagine if the Sox used only their bullpen for an entire game. My god...... It would be a nightmare.

[Kimmi]

Right before the disaster vs Seattle in June when he was tagged for 10 and went on the DL, he started three straight, went 20.2 innings, and gave up 0 runs. If you take out that Seattle game, Wright has pitched in 20 games, gone 50.2 innings, and given up 6 earned runs for an ERA of 1.04. Take the worst game away from any other pitcher, including Sale, and their ERA is still not close to Wright's.

 

That's why I started a thread arguing he should start games 1, 3, and 5 of the ALDS and go 2 innings in each game--because I think he will be consistent, get guys out, and set up the hard throwers--Sale, Porcello, and Sale--who actually pitch the bulk of the innings.

 

That won't happen, of course. It's just a theory, but the theory came from watching Cash do it in Tampa and from getting very nervous about our starters in the postseason.

 

Wright has only started 4 games this year, so disregarding one of those four is really not painting an accurate picture. I'm not trying bash Wright. IMO, he has been very good. But I don't agree with the idea of him starting over Sale or Price.

[Kimmi]

Boone has decided to start Severeno tomorrow which means that Happ will be game 1 pitcher against the SOX if they win. That Happ will possibly start 2 games in the ALDS should be a major reason to worry. Go A's!

 

No reason to be scared of the Yankees.

[Kimmi]

I'm not scared of Happ and neither are Sox hitters.

 

There's all kinds of examples where a pitcher seems to have our number for a game or two and then BAM!

 

Right on brother!

[Kimmi]

I've actually come around to this line of thinking myself.

 

Noooo!!!!