2017 Yankees Season Thread

[Jasonbay44]

Something has to be wrong with Tanaka.

[a700hitter]

Something has to be wrong with Tanaka.

Other than sucking?

[Jasonbay44]

Other than sucking?

 

I just find it hard to believe he's this bad. He has been a very good pitcher his whole career and all of a sudden just sucks ass? He isn't even old.

[a700hitter]

I just find it hard to believe he's this bad. He has been a very good pitcher his whole career and all of a sudden just sucks ass? He isn't even old.

Japanese pitchers seem to follow a pattern of falling off a cliff after being dominant for a 2 or 3 years. Maybe it takes batters in the US longer to adjust to them and then they have a hard time of making counter adjustments after being dominant for an extended period. I don't know. There has not been any discussion or rumors of arm trouble with Tanaka in NY. None that I have heard or read.

[Bellhorn04]

I can't see any harm in him paying a little visit to Dr. Andrews.

[jacksonianmarch]

We have lined up our top pitching prospect with Tanaka. Something is wrong, clearly. His velocity is there, but he cannot seem to locate his offspeed stuff anymore. That is his calling card. This isn't just him "sucking". It's his best pitch suddenly flattening out and sitting down the middle. He either needs a ten day breather or a few MRI's to see if there's damage that he's hiding. I really wonder about that elbow. Some guys lose velocity first, others lose location. And the splitter is the worst pitch for your elbow

[Slasher9]

needs another trip to the Miami clinic.......

[jacksonianmarch]

He can do whatever he needs to. Thing is, a healed, previously torn ligament is not as strong as a TJS one. I wouldnt be surprised if they look and see a recurrent tear or a worse tear. I hope they look and if he is torn, I hope they fix it right this time. Chance Adams is lined up with Tanaka's start and that kid is a stud. It's crazy that we are still in first with next to nothing from our ace.

[bkzwhitestrican]

Judge is the best 6'7 outfielder in the world. No way we trade Pineda and Didi. Tanaka sucks. Until the next start where he has 14Ks, then he's the man. But then as soon as he gives up another 7 runs in 2 innings, he sucks again.

[jacksonianmarch]

bkz, Tanaka has to be hurt. Either that or his mechanics, which previously had been flawless, need adjusting. His splitter has been awful. Beyond awful at that. And he has the best one in baseball. It's his out pitch. Without that, he is a FB/slider guy who doesnt throw hard enough to be good with just a FB-slider. Splitters are the worst for the elbow. He has a tear in the elbow that may have healed with scar tissue, but is not likely to be stronger than his original ligament. The likelihood that his elbow isnt right is pretty high

[bkzwhitestrican]

Well hopefully he fixes his mechanics by tomorrow. Big series at this point of the season, could put some distance or drop out of 1st in the division depending on how it goes. But being at home and seeing that we aren't facing Sale, I think we should take 2 outta 3. I'm sure the forum residents would disagree though.

[jacksonianmarch]

Slider just spins. Splitter doesn't split. 2 seamer doesn't even sink. I think one of Terry Francona's patented 15 day phantom DL stints is in order. If he's hurt, fix it definitively. If he isn't, then give him a break.

[Spudboy]

Slider just spins. Splitter doesn't split. 2 seamer doesn't even sink. I think one of Terry Francona's patented 15 day phantom DL stints is in order. If he's hurt, fix it definitively. If he isn't, then give him a break.

 

All this was predictable when the Platelet injections were chosen over shut down and TJS.

 

If they had done that then he would be healthy now as the team returns to competitive play and is poised to make the playoffs.

 

I don't know all the details but I would have opted for surgery then when the Yankees sucked.

[Kimmi]

Slider just spins. Splitter doesn't split. 2 seamer doesn't even sink. I think one of Terry Francona's patented 15 day phantom DL stints is in order. If he's hurt, fix it definitively. If he isn't, then give him a break.

 

Girardi said today that Tanaka would make his next start against the Os.

 

I am surprised that they don't give him a phantom DL stint.

[jacksonianmarch]

Doesn't make sense. If he's not hurt, then a mental break would help. The O's are gonna tee off if he doesn't fix it

[jacksonianmarch]

Good to see Carter heating up. It's crazy how strong he is. If he starts hitting them in bunches, we'll be in good shape

[jacksonianmarch]

Three straight bludgeonings. This offense has been resurrected with the corpses out of the lineup from last year. Hicks has reached his ceiling. There's a reason why he was a top 7 draft pick. Ellsbury doesn't have a job to return to. Also, Hicks in the 2 hole allows Sanchez to drop into an RBI position, which should benefit him a bit more with all the guys getting on base in front of him. The absolutely crazy thing is how little we have gotten out of 1b. Bird should be back soon. Sounds like this ankle bone bruise was there since the end of ST and he just soldiered through. If the injury was limiting his performance and he's now ok, watch out. He's got big potential and adding him to our lineup will drop our breathers down to 1 (Headley). That's until Wade or Torres moves up.

[jacksonianmarch]

121 mph off the bat of Judge. Wow

[jacksonianmarch]

4 outs, 9 runs. We are beating the s*** out of this team

[bkzwhitestrican]

Our lineup is pretty beastly. 1 through 7 in the order are all at least above average hitters. Hopefully Bird rounds into form whenever he comes back. And I can live with Headley hitting .250 or so in the 9 hole as long as he plays well in the field.

 

As for the pitching, everyone sans Tanaka has been a pleasant surprise. Who knows how long they'll keep it up for but if this lasts then we have a team with very few weaknesses.

[jacksonianmarch]

Montgomery has been a major eye opener. The guy looks like a seasoned vet out there as a rookie. We knew what Severino could do, just surprised to see him regain form after such a terrible 2016. Pineda has always had promise, but injury or ineffectiveness have limited him. Figures he puts it together in a contract year. CC has experienced a bump in velocity, which has helped his off speed stuff in that there is a bigger difference. Also, he seems to have his slider back. The one puzzling case has been Tanaka. The guys has been great for three years and this year, everything is missing in the zone. If he figures it out, we will have only one weakness (3b) with a few internal options.

[Northern Star]

Judge needs one in the ribs at this rate.

[jacksonianmarch]

That homerun is still travelling. Holy s***, 496 feet? The guy is locked in. He doesn't chase anymore, so guys have to come in the zone and he seems to be able to handle anything.

[bkzwhitestrican]

Judge needs one in the ribs at this rate.

 

The problem with that is Judge stands so far back from the plate that if you went in on his ribs, you'd know it's intentional

[jacksonianmarch]

Judge leads all position players with a 3.7 WAR. His OPS is rising and it's up to 1.168. He leads in HR, tied in runs, 13th in hits, 6th in RBI, 8th in walks, 1st in OPS (Trout will fall off the leaderboard due to injury). His season is Mantle-esque

[yankees228]

Glad to see you're still keeping the Yankees section of this message board alive and well, Jacko.

[Kimmi]

Judge leads all position players with a 3.7 WAR. His OPS is rising and it's up to 1.168. He leads in HR, tied in runs, 13th in hits, 6th in RBI, 8th in walks, 1st in OPS (Trout will fall off the leaderboard due to injury). His season is Mantle-esque

 

Dude's got an insane .432 BABIP. How long can he keep it up?

[yankees228]

Dude's got an insane .432 BABIP. How long can he keep it up?

 

It'll surely come down some but ultimately (hopefully, for Yanks fans) it could just end up being one of those weird years where 162 games isn't a large enough sampling for things to correct completely. Not unheard of for guys with very hard contact rates to finish entire seasons with BABIPs close to .400.

 

Longterm, I'm hoping he can settle into the .350 range.

[Jasonbay44]

The thing with Judge is that he seems to kill the ball every AB, it seems even his outs are loud, so I unfortunately wouldn't be surprised if he kept his average up really high, he's without a doubt the MVP right now.

 

By the way, welcome back Y228, good to see you around.

[d-money]

Aaron Judge homers again. Is he gonna hit 55 hrs?