Swihart moved to AAA

[Redsoxgirl51282]

Swihart was just brought down to AAA while vazquez was brought up.

[mvp 78]

Swihart was sent down, Marco Hernandez was brought up.

[Spudboy]

Swihart was sent down, Marco Hernandez was brought up.

 

This should make cp176 happy.

 

I still think they should have brought up another reliever but what the hell do I know?

[sk7326]

Good move. Swihart needs to play.

 

They don't need another reliever. They could stand to deploy their relievers a little differently. And I'd certainly bring up Owens, move Kelly to the pen and launch Ross into outer space.

[cp176]

Doesn't really make me happy but it seems like the logical move. In his case, they need to find out if he will ever actually be able to catch in the bigs before they just stick him out there again. I am very happy to see Hernandez get a cup of coffee with the big club though. He is young, he has worked hard, and he is a lot better than people think he is.

[cp176]

Doesn't really make me happy but it seems like the logical move. In his case, they need to find out if he will ever actually be able to catch in the bigs before they just stick him out there again. I am very happy to see Hernandez get a cup of coffee with the big club though. He is young, he has worked hard, and he is a lot better than people think he is.

 

Although it is the right move, i still feel sorry for Swihart. I'm glad that we still have him.

[cp176]

Good move. Swihart needs to play.

 

They don't need another reliever. They could stand to deploy their relievers a little differently. And I'd certainly bring up Owens, move Kelly to the pen and launch Ross into outer space.

 

 

this might very well happen. it is a logical move and logic is playing a role in some of the current moves. Owens will get another opportunity for sure and I agree with you about both Kelly and Ross.

[mvp 78]

Doesn't really make me happy but it seems like the logical move. In his case, they need to find out if he will ever actually be able to catch in the bigs before they just stick him out there again. I am very happy to see Hernandez get a cup of coffee with the big club though. He is young, he has worked hard, and he is a lot better than people think he is.

 

Marrero has been brutal with the bat so far. Otherwise, I'd assume he'd be the guy coming up.

[cp176]

Marrero has been brutal with the bat so far. Otherwise, I'd assume he'd be the guy coming up.

 

I think that Marrero had a big day at the plate yesterday. I kind of think that bringing Hernandez up is more of a feel good reward for hard work as opposed to anything else. be surprised if he is there very long.

[SoxHop]

I'm good with it. The rotation needs all the help they can get. Swihart just hasn't seasoned enough yet IMO. I hope to see him back up sometime, and no rush really. His bat and just average catcher ability he could be an all star.

[SoxHop]

According to StatCorner, to date, Swihart’s framing has been roughly middle of the pack – 0.3 calls per game and 0.3 total runs so far this year below average – while Yadier Molina, the elite framer in the game to whom Vazquez is often compared, has been 2.3 calls per game and 2.8 total runs above average this year. A defensive impact of three runs might not sound like a lot, but over the course of months, it suggests a huge disparity.

[SoxHop]

And Swihart now taking fly balls in ........................ Left field.

 

 

WTF?

[Northern Star]

Swihart was just brought down to AAA while vazquez was brought up.

 

Swihart was sent down, Marco Hernandez was brought up.

 

Swihart was sent down, and I was under Oveur and Oveur was under Dunn.

[Northern Star]

Good move. Swihart needs to play.

 

They don't need another reliever. They could stand to deploy their relievers a little differently. And I'd certainly bring up Owens, move Kelly to the pen and launch Ross into outer space.

 

Not sure what you mean by deploy them differently. The starters need to go longer in games, pure and simple.

[mvp 78]

And Swihart now taking fly balls in ........................ Left field.

 

 

WTF?

*insert the Ron Paul "it's happening" gif*

[mvp 78]

Killing Swihart's trade value.

[jacksonianmarch]

This was inevitable. Swihart needs a new position if he's to stay a red sock.

[SoxHop]

Killing Swihart's trade value.

 

Totally. If they think about moving him to left I'll be pissed. If he becomes an average defender at c he is a huge trading chip.

 

Veritek was quoted saying "he will be an allstar catcher".

 

I'm usually not adamant on these things, but if that happens I think it would be a huge mistake.

[mvp 78]

Thanks Ben!

[cp176]

If they were planning to keep him, it was inevitalbe. Question is will he hit well enough to be able to hold down a different position? With what we have coming, I don't think so. Now - time for them to get Moncada on the move!

[a700hitter]

He should be catching in AAA to refine his defensive skills. I agree that moving him to another position would hurt his trade value.

[Dojji]

He's not moving to left, unbunch the pantaloons. He's getting a taste of left field while working on his catching. That's how the team is framing this.

 

if any team saw him as a potentially valuable trade chip 5 minutes ago the fact that he suddenly has left field experience isn't going to change their minds one little bit. The only significance of the move to LF is that it annoys people yet further who somehow still see Swihart as the guy who should be starting at catcher either right now or in 2 years (or in other words those who want catchers that hit and see Vazquez as a backup) despite the team making it clear that Vazquez was the starter and Swihart wasn't, and maybe gives Swihart a little more usefulness off the bench in a couple niche situations. That's it. Cool your jets people.

 

Incidentally I'm reading here and there that Swihart was right on the edge of burning a year of service time, and sending him down, if they leave him down all year, will save them a year of control over him. That's never the only reason to hold a guy in the minors, but with 2 good young catching hopefuls and only 1 that you can commit enough big league reps to to let them develop in Boston, it makes a good tiebreaker.

Edited April 16, 2016 by Dojji

[Palodios]

My guess is that they tried to trade Swihart this winter, and couldn't find anyone giving up a solid pitcher in return.

[Dojji]

if they tried to trade Swihart in the winter they were fools. Swihart had his foot nailed to the floor in Boston until we knew whether CV would be back and ready to go. Turns out he was, but this right this very right now second is the first time they could realistically explore moving him.

[jacksonianmarch]

I disagree Dojji. Vasquez didn't have shoulder surgery, he had TJS. There's a set timetable that most people recover within. And you had Hanigan, a capable big league catcher. All the publications had Swihart as this 5 tool catcher capable of being a solid defender blah blah blah. He was exposed at the big league level and looks like a hit first fringe catcher at the big league level. While he showed he can hit big league pitching, which is a plus, he likely showed that C wasn't his long term spot which will kill his trade value.

[User Name]

That is a load of ********. Swihart barely has any development time at the C position. He needs reps, but he's shown nothing about his long-term defensive outlooks. If he was a Yankees prospect, you 'd be gushing about what a great future outlook he has.

[jacksonianmarch]

That is a load of ********. Swihart barely has any development time at the C position. He needs reps, but he's shown nothing about his long-term defensive outlooks. If he was a Yankees prospect, you 'd be gushing about what a great future outlook he has.

 

As an outfielder. UN?, I know you love this kid, but there's a reason why a no hit player in Vasquez beat him out. And it isn't like the kid is really young, he's 24, about the age he should be hitting the bigs. He might be the second coming of Posada, but they don't allow poor defensive catchers to stay catchers anymore. The days of the hit first slugger behind the dish are over.

[mvp 78]

That is a load of ********. Swihart barely has any development time at the C position. He needs reps, but he's shown nothing about his long-term defensive outlooks. If he was a Yankees prospect, you 'd be gushing about what a great future outlook he has.

 

Yeah, I think Swihart is better defensively than what he's given credit for. I still think he should spend the whole year at C and worry about another position in the offseason if it comes to that.

[Dojji]

Swihart has good defensive tools, no doubt about that. His issue is that he was way too green because he was forced up too early. I think other teams recognize this when judging his longterm value.

 

The only reason they have him dabbling in left is so they have enough leverage to say "Yeah, we don't have to move this guy because we have a plan for what to do with him Vaz or no Vaz." That should increase the return on trade not decrease it.

[cp176]

My guess is that they tried to trade Swihart this winter, and couldn't find anyone giving up a solid pitcher in return.

 

It would not surprise me at all if we found out that they tried to move Swihart and found out that alone he just wasn't going to bring the type of return that they wanted. We hear an awful lot about Swihart's potential and that is a good thing. We have a top of the line catcher in Vazquez who if healthy will probably always be in front of Swihart. No one tends to say much here about Vazquez's hitting potential. We know that he is a helluva catcher. We need to just sit back and watch him develop. Preach patience with Swihart all you want but I think we should do the same with Vazquez. That short compact stroke looks like he may become a better hitter than anyone thinks he can. He also is very athletic, strong , and physically fit.