2016 Outlook for Eduardo Rodriguez

[chicubs]

http://thearmchairallamericans.com/2016/03/10/2016-outlook-for-eduardo-rodriguez/

[Kimmi]

I find it a bit disconcerting that what was originally presumed to be a 72 hour sideline for Rodriguez has turned into a not likely to be ready for Opening Day injury.

[a700hitter]

This will really test the depth of the staff, and I don't think that depth is adequate.

[Spudboy]

This will really test the depth of the staff, and I don't think that depth is adequate.

 

I was asking if anyone was concerned when it happened. Now you know why I asked the question.

 

As far as the depth of the staff and how it may compensate for a loss of E-Rod for any period, I think that after Price it's all pretty much schlock. This team is deep 2-8 but they are all mediocre pitchers like 4-5 types.

 

Things will get really rosy if E-Rod does not step up and then Buch makes his annual vacation before the break.

 

This year has the potential to be really fun.

 

And it has the ability to be more of the same s*** we have witnessed for the past two years.

 

I'll just roll a fatty and wait.

[mvp 78]

I think having Erod start the season on the DL or in AAA is a great way to manage his innings.

[cp176]

Even better - maybe he gets left behind for an extended spring - 8 or 10 starts in Pawtucket - bring him back up in Sept. - can't be too careful.

[jacksonianmarch]

He dislocated his patella. That injury, while not structurally devastating, takes time to heal. The inflammation exists for a couple weeks, then he'll have to ramp up again. If he misses any reg season time, it will be because his arm isn't caught up. My big question as a physician is whether this will recur. Patellar dislocations can be recurrent, especially in people who have some laxity to begin with in the knee. If it happens recurrently, then you have surgery to tighten up the patellar tendon and the surroundings to keep it from sliding. If he had that surgery, he's miss the season

[jung]

As usual the slicker than eel oil Sox PR department will be backsliding into this.....first implying that it was a big nothing....they will slowly work their way around to something remotely resembling the truth. Figure he is out for at least most of April and any setback will kill most of May.

[mvp 78]

As usual the slicker than eel oil Sox PR department will be backsliding into this.....first implying that it was a big nothing....they will slowly work their way around to something remotely resembling the truth. Figure he is out for at least most of April and any setback will kill most of May.

 

The PR department is about as slick as sandpaper coated with shards of glass. These are the people who gave a kick in the ass to the winningest coach this team ever had when he was shown the door.

[jung]

The PR department is about as slick as sandpaper coated with shards of glass. These are the people who gave a kick in the ass to the winningest coach this team ever had when he was shown the door.

 

They are laughably terrible. I will give you that. They are audacious as all get out though. Capable of trying to sell anything at any time to anybody and they make sure to get around to all the possible candidates for embarrassment so they all end up needing a looong hot shower before rejoining polite company again. Slimy as eel oil might have been better.

[Spudboy]

I think having Erod start the season on the DL or in AAA is a great way to manage his innings.

 

 

Always love that MVP wit.

[mvp 78]

Always love that MVP wit.

 

Someone had to counterbalance Kimmi's negativity in this thread!

[Spudboy]

He dislocated his patella. That injury, while not structurally devastating, takes time to heal. The inflammation exists for a couple weeks, then he'll have to ramp up again. If he misses any reg season time, it will be because his arm isn't caught up. My big question as a physician is whether this will recur. Patellar dislocations can be recurrent, especially in people who have some laxity to begin with in the knee. If it happens recurrently, then you have surgery to tighten up the patellar tendon and the surroundings to keep it from sliding. If he had that surgery, he's miss the season

 

Somehow I missed the fact that the patella was dislocated.

 

I have had this happen many times over the past 15 or so years. He will at the very least have to do many strengthening exercises for his quads.

 

Time for plan B if all this stuff is true.

[mvp 78]

Plan B is Stephen Wright?

[Dojji]

Nothing wrong with Stephen Wright being considered as a good depth option.

 

I know we're all excited about Eddie but it's too early to count on all that much from him anyway. At the moment he should be regarded as good depth and a kid who can learn how to get it done.

[Spudboy]

Plan B is Stephen Wright?

 

Possibly. Or Owens.

 

Or both! Who knows at this point?

[cp176]

Or Johnson - don't forget about Johnson. Sticking with him as my pre-season surprise pick to make an impact.

[mvp 78]

Or Johnson - don't forget about Johnson. Sticking with him as my pre-season surprise pick to make an impact.

 

Is he ready to start the season though? He had that injury last year. I think they'd have him begin the season in AAA. ERod could be ready before Johnson.

[cp176]

Is he ready to start the season though? He had that injury last year. I think they'd have him begin the season in AAA. ERod could be ready before Johnson.

 

I don't know the answer. He has pitched once and I haven't heard that he has had any setbacks. It probably is likely that he starts in Pawtucket. Wright and Owens both look like they may get the first nods to go. I just like Johnson.

[Kimmi]

Someone had to counterbalance Kimmi's negativity in this thread!

 

LOL You crack me up.

[Kimmi]

Nothing wrong with Stephen Wright being considered as a good depth option.

 

I know we're all excited about Eddie but it's too early to count on all that much from him anyway. At the moment he should be regarded as good depth and a kid who can learn how to get it done.

 

I suspect that at this point the Sox are in no hurry to get Rodriguez into the rotation. For one, this does allow the Sox to somewhat manage his innings. Though he doesn't need much management of innings, it might come in handy for when the Sox are playing deep in October. For two, this allows the Sox to check out some guys who have no options remaining, for instance Edwin Escobar. For three, this allows the Sox to give Wright another look in the rotation versus putting him in the pen right away.

 

Personally, I like Wright better as a #5 starter than I do as a reliever. However, I think that Kelly needs to be given a legitimate chance this year as a starter before the Sox decide he's better suited for a relief role (if they decide that). Rodriguez' injury kind of helps the Sox sort some things out.

[Kimmi]

Possibly. Or Owens.

 

Or both! Who knows at this point?

 

Or Roenis Elias.

[Dojji]

The point here is that we definitely have some depth at SP, and some of the guys down there are worth a look. I'm actually heavily intrigued by what Wright could do if he gets a chance in the rotation. He's looked relatively solid in a starting role thus far. And Wright aside (who might be a good 5th starter in a pinch, at best), we do have other prospects besides Eddie who deserve a look if there's room in the rotation. Either of Owens or Johnson could "click" this year the way Eddie clicked last year if things go right for them.

 

It will definitely be better to have eddie ready to go than not, he's the best bet we have for a young pitcher to really take over the 2-3 slot in the rotation and boosting the quality, but in terms of quantity, our depth is as good as nearly anyone's.

[Kimmi]

If Rodriguez is not ready to go on Opening Day, which is pretty much a lock at this point, I'd be very surprised if someone other than Wright gets his rotation spot to start the season. Wright is virtually guaranteed a spot on the Opening Day roster Putting Wright in the rotation gives the Sox the opportunity to give some other guys a look in the pen that they might not have otherwise been able to do.

 

Escobar has no options and Marmol has an opt out on Opening Day.

[Dojji]

Wright is what they call a high floor option. Very likely to be a good bottom of the rotation guy, vanishingly unlikely to be much more than that. Still, there's value for a guy like that, especially a cheap one.

 

I agree that he's the safe choice if there's a gap in the rotation on opening day.

[jacksonianmarch]

Wright is a stop gap option, nothing more. If Eduardo cannot go, then I think Owens gets the nod. This is especially true if he keeps killing it this spring

[Spudboy]

Wright is a stop gap option, nothing more. If Eduardo cannot go, then I think Owens gets the nod. This is especially true if he keeps killing it this spring

 

I have been thinking this too. But today Owens had a rough outing.

 

There are many who know ( or pretend to know ) far more about pitching than me. I happen to like Owens because he is pretty intense on the mound and seems smart.

 

I have no idea if he has the command and finish to be anything more than a place holder for now.

[cp176]

I think that Owens gets his chance for sure. I'm just not feeling it. I don't see him as being any better as an option than Eilas, Wright, or Johnson. They all have back of the rotation value but as adequate replacements for Eddie probably not. We better all be cheering real hard for the likes Buckeroo and kelley too. You want to really upgrade this pitching staff, it probably would cost more than most fans would like to see given up in trade for sure.

[cp176]

I'm probably more excited about Wright because of his unpredictability and Eilas because because I don't know very much about him.

[Dojji]

it depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Wright is the depth option with the most experience and the highest floor making him the safest choice. The depth option with the most upside and highest ceiling is probaly Owens. So do you want the high floor guy who's less likely to crap the bed or the high ceiling guy who could be terrible but might also break through and be awesome? It's really a question of priorities.