2014 Roster Projections

[marklmw]

Why can't he be the next Mike Trout? 'cause he black?

 

HaHaHa ... not touching this one UN ... I just do not want to be accused of wearing pink colored glasses especially since I have been going out on a limb for Tanaka. BTW one scout compared JBJ skill set to Ken Griffey ... Senior. Nothing wrong with that.

[Bellhorn04]

If Jackie Bradley can show the instincts in CF he has shown since his South Carolina days, and if he can just match his minor league on-base numbers - that is a first rate starting CF who'd make an All-Star game or two in his career.

 

I'm looking forward to watching him for years. Although his numbers weren't great this year he was one of the guys I always wanted to watch when he was at the plate.

[marklmw]

If Jackie Bradley can show the instincts in CF he has shown since his South Carolina days, and if he can just match his minor league on-base numbers - that is a first rate starting CF who'd make an All-Star game or two in his career.

Exactly.

[marklmw]

I'm looking forward to watching him for years. Although his numbers weren't great this year he was one of the guys I always wanted to watch when he was at the plate.

 

Think of JBJ & Bogaerts and the 2014 version of Rice & Lynn. The two of them will be fun to watch for a number of years.

[sk7326]

I'm looking forward to watching him for years. Although his numbers weren't great this year he was one of the guys I always wanted to watch when he was at the plate.

 

His career arc has has shown him to be a bit of a "True Outcomes" hitter a la Bellhorn/Napoli/Dunn ... lot of strikeouts, lot of walks, and the ability to square it up with hard contact the rest of the time.

[win red sox]

Looking at buy low candidates, I would think that Josh Johson would be a Sox target for a incentive laden 1 year contract. They could move Dempster and Peavy(approx 28 million) and still have a rotation with depth.

 

Lester

Lackey

Buchholz

Doubront(expecting a huge year)

Johnson/Workman/Webster/Ranuado/RDLR/Barnes/Wright

 

If Johnson had a healthy year, the sox could offer a QO the following year. I see no downside to it.

[rjortiz]

Is Henry Owens a projected ace of this staff in the future? And is any other farm system prospects projected to be Aces or #2 starters

 

There's an issue with his control. I think he's more of a 2/3.

 

Bunch of good pitching. Ball, Ranaudo, Barnes, and Webster are pretty solid prospects.

[User Name]

His career arc has has shown him to be a bit of a "True Outcomes" hitter a la Bellhorn/Napoli/Dunn ... lot of strikeouts, lot of walks, and the ability to square it up with hard contact the rest of the time.

 

Some people will look at his approach and think he has contact issues. He doesn't. He's just very selective at the plate, and that usually results in a lot of K's. As he matures and reaches his prime, he's a candidate to cut down on the K's and increase his batting average as he gets acclimated to the pitchers in this league.

[User Name]

Looking at buy low candidates, I would think that Josh Johson would be a Sox target for a incentive laden 1 year contract. They could move Dempster and Peavy(approx 28 million) and still have a rotation with depth.

 

Lester

Lackey

Buchholz

Doubront(expecting a huge year)

Johnson/Workman/Webster/Ranuado/RDLR/Barnes/Wright

 

If Johnson had a healthy year, the sox could offer a QO the following year. I see no downside to it.

 

Except the part where he's not a safe bet to provide better production than Peavy next year.

[marklmw]

Looking at buy low candidates, I would think that Josh Johson would be a Sox target for a incentive laden 1 year contract. They could move Dempster and Peavy(approx 28 million) and still have a rotation with depth.

 

Lester

Lackey

Buchholz

Doubront(expecting a huge year)

Johnson/Workman/Webster/Ranuado/RDLR/Barnes/Wright

 

If Johnson had a healthy year, the sox could offer a QO the following year. I see no downside to it.

 

You do not have Tanaka listed ... come on man ... get with the program. 'UserName' wants Tanaka something fierce and what UN wants UN gets.

[marklmw]

Except the part where he's not a safe bet to provide better production than Peavy next year.

Not only that .... tell me where will Peavy drive his new Duck Boat?

[marklmw]

Projections are fun stuff ... they will get even better after Monday when we find out about the QO's. These things are fact:

The Boston Red Sox are the 2013 World Series Champions

The Boston Red Sox have one of the top farm systems talent wise

The Boston Red Sox have mostly short term contracts

The Boston Red Sox have a very reasonable payroll for a big market team

 

Did I miss anything?

[sk7326]

Some people will look at his approach and think he has contact issues. He doesn't. He's just very selective at the plate, and that usually results in a lot of K's. As he matures and reaches his prime, he's a candidate to cut down on the K's and increase his batting average as he gets acclimated to the pitchers in this league.

 

There is that, but I also look at his AA/AAA stats ... he struck out 50% more often in his trip to the bigs. But he had some healthy strikeout rates in the minors too - note I don't really care, outs are outs and yes it comes with his patience at the plate. I am bullish on him ... but there are plenty of folks (including on this forum) who watch hitters like him who might strike out quite a bit and conflate that with "not being able to hit".

[Palodios]

Not only that .... tell me where will Peavy drive his new Duck Boat?

I have spent far too much time thinking about Peavy's duck boat. I have no idea what it would cost, but I figure it probably has to be in the 100k range.

 

That's a big investment. I bet he'll actually use it as a vehicle -- he is a big fisherman isn't he?

[win red sox]

Projections are fun stuff ... they will get even better after Monday when we find out about the QO's. These things are fact:

The Boston Red Sox are the 2013 World Series Champions

The Boston Red Sox have one of the top farm systems talent wise

The Boston Red Sox have mostly short term contracts

The Boston Red Sox have a very reasonable payroll for a big market team

 

 

 

Did I miss anything?

 

 

Arguably losing their best player?

[Bellhorn04]

Projections are fun stuff ... they will get even better after Monday when we find out about the QO's. These things are fact:

The Boston Red Sox are the 2013 World Series Champions

The Boston Red Sox have one of the top farm systems talent wise

The Boston Red Sox have mostly short term contracts

The Boston Red Sox have a very reasonable payroll for a big market team

 

Did I miss anything?

 

Yes. The Red Sox have Bodacious Ben.

[win red sox]

I have spent far too much time thinking about Peavy's duck boat. I have no idea what it would cost, but I figure it probably has to be in the 100k range.

 

That's a big investment. I bet he'll actually use it as a vehicle -- he is a big fisherman isn't he?

 

don't hold me to it, but I thought i read 77k.

[marklmw]

I have spent far too much time thinking about Peavy's duck boat. I have no idea what it would cost, but I figure it probably has to be in the 100k range.

 

That's a big investment. I bet he'll actually use it as a vehicle -- he is a big fisherman isn't he?

 

Someone told me he paid 35K for it. The color is great ... same green as the Monster.

[Palodios]

Looking at buy low candidates, I would think that Josh Johson would be a Sox target for a incentive laden 1 year contract. They could move Dempster and Peavy(approx 28 million) and still have a rotation with depth.

 

Lester

Lackey

Buchholz

Doubront(expecting a huge year)

Johnson/Workman/Webster/Ranuado/RDLR/Barnes/Wright

 

If Johnson had a healthy year, the sox could offer a QO the following year. I see no downside to it.

 

I always have to preface the next statement with "The FO needs to have scouts examining all of the following bargain bin options, and pick the ones that appear healthy and actually have a chance to make a comeback" or less I tend to get hammered.

 

Every time I look, it seems like there are more and more quality buy-low candidates for starting pitching. Johnson, Halladay, Anderson, Marcum, Johann Sanatana are all on the pile. Several guys with very good pasts -- one or two might actually turn it around.

[marklmw]

I have spent far too much time thinking about Peavy's duck boat. I have no idea what it would cost, but I figure it probably has to be in the 100k range.

 

That's a big investment. I bet he'll actually use it as a vehicle -- he is a big fisherman isn't he?

 

I did some research. No definitive number for the boat. Peavy lives in Alabama and has 3 sons. He owns a property where he can use the boat ... I would not be surprised if he lives on 50 acres with a nice body of water. This article has the boat at $115K.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/mass_roundup/2013/11/jake-peavy-duck-boat-how-much.html

[Palodios]

I did some research. No definitive number for the boat. Peavy lives in Alabama and has 3 sons. He owns a property where he can use the boat ... I would not be surprised if he lives on 50 acres with a nice body of water. This article has the boat at $115K.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/mass_roundup/2013/11/jake-peavy-duck-boat-how-much.html

 

Awesome!

[jung]

Looking at buy low candidates, I would think that Josh Johson would be a Sox target for a incentive laden 1 year contract. They could move Dempster and Peavy(approx 28 million) and still have a rotation with depth.

 

Lester

Lackey

Buchholz

Doubront(expecting a huge year)

Johnson/Workman/Webster/Ranuado/RDLR/Barnes/Wright

 

If Johnson had a healthy year, the sox could offer a QO the following year. I see no downside to it.

 

It is interesting to note how many guys we have occupying the middle to back ends of the rotation spots even now. Of course at least for today that bunch includes Peavy and Dempster. Buch has really got to be considered a 3 at this point as he simply cannot stay out there. As I have mentioned in earlier posts though both Buch and the Sox would do well to really try to find a way to get Buch over his current health issues and then find some way to deal with his fragility (having nothing to do with heart). That is likely going to be a tall order for one shortened post season as he has to get healthy again first. We may in fact have to resign ourselves to not getting much out of Buch for the first half of the 2014 season.

[User Name]

Arguably losing their best player?

 

Dustin Pedroia isn't going anywhere.

[win red sox]

Dustin Pedroia isn't going anywhere.

 

nice

[Bellhorn04]

I always have to preface the next statement with "The FO needs to have scouts examining all of the following bargain bin options, and pick the ones that appear healthy and actually have a chance to make a comeback" or less I tend to get hammered.

 

Every time I look, it seems like there are more and more quality buy-low candidates for starting pitching. Johnson, Halladay, Anderson, Marcum, Johann Sanatana are all on the pile. Several guys with very good pasts -- one or two might actually turn it around.

 

Now I'd like to see a list of the buy-low guys from the last few years that have actually paid off.

[win red sox]

Now I'd like to see a list of the buy-low guys from the last few years that have actually paid off.

 

Liriano is the one that stands out to me.

[User Name]

Liriano is the one that stands out to me.

 

Liriano got a two-year, guaranteed 12.75 million contract though. The only reason they re-worked it into a 1+ option contract is because he broke his non-throwing arm.

[jung]

Now I'd like to see a list of the buy-low guys from the last few years that have actually paid off.

 

I would too Bell. But at a guess and without actually looking I bet the list of successes from that "buy low" category is better on a percentage basis than the list of high ticket, long term contract deals that are considered successful.

[win red sox]

Liriano got a two-year, guaranteed 12.75 million contract though. The only reason they re-worked it into a 1+ option contract is because he broke his non-throwing arm.

 

wasn't it initially a 1/7 contract? other candidates i can think of is Colon and Kazmir.

[User Name]

wasn't it initially a 1/7 contract? other candidates i can think of is Colon and Kazmir.

 

Nope. 2/12. Colon and Kazmir are good examples.