10/26 at St Louis: World Series Game 3

[a700hitter]

a700 what the f*** are you talking about? We should have never threw the ball yes, that doesn't excuse the bad call. What the hell? Are you on side?

It's a very close call. I could see it going either way based on the rule book. It's bad f***ing luck that the guy tripped, but if he didn't trip, he scores. It's all on Salty 95% and 5% on WMB not knocking the ball down.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

THERE! They asked him if he raised his legs intentionally. He said no. did they raise up against his will?

Do you know what a reflex is? Have you ever been on a baseball diamond? No? Okay.

[kapsis21]

MLB Rulebook:

 

Rule 7.09: when a runner fails to avoid a fielder who is attempting to field a batted ball, the runner is out and the ball is dead.

 

WMB was in correct fielding position, trying to field the throw. It is Craig's responsibility to avoid hard contact with the fielder. He was looking for an interference call and got it.

 

Thank you sir and now i am convinced the game is rigged.

[TedWilliams101]

It doesn't matter what he did after the facts. Look at the goddamned rulebook, it was Craig's responsibility to avoid the fielder who was in the correct position in the first place, you insufferable homer.

 

The rule you quote (7.09) is for a BATTED ball. Unfortunately the call was within the definition of the rule, it is just a s***** rule and really s***** spot to call the rule.

[User Name]

The rule you quote (7.06) is for a BATTED ball. Unfortunately the call was within the definition of the rule, it is just a s***** rule and really s***** spot to call the rule.

 

7.09 (J): He fails to avoid a fielder who is attempting to field a batted ball, or intentionally interferes with a thrown bal

[kapsis21]

The rule you quote (7.09) is for a BATTED ball. Unfortunately the call was within the definition of the rule, it is just a s***** rule and really s***** spot to call the rule.

change your sig

[MANNYHOF24]

It doesn't matter what he did after the facts. Look at the goddamned rulebook, it was Craig's responsibility to avoid the fielder who was in the correct position in the first place, you insufferable homer.

 

Can you post the rule please, having major Fb Battles right now.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

What fries me as much as anything is that shitbag Rosenthal smarming around after the game with that geeky smirk plastered across his peanut head. I'm legitimately bummed somebody didn't chuck the gatorade cooler at it.

[BigPapi]

I dont want to hear you talk salty. You had chance to make it a five- four game with a single in the 8th. Thanks for a good regular season, but Have fun on the damn bench

[User Name]

(j) He fails to avoid a fielder who is attempting to field a batted ball, or intentionally

interferes with a thrown ball, provided that if two or more fielders attempt to field a

batted ball, and the runner comes in contact with one or more of them, the umpire

shall determine which fielder is entitled to the benefit of this rule, and shall not

declare the runner out for coming in contact with a fielder other than the one the

umpire determines to be entitled to field such a ball.

 

 

It's simple: If the runner fails to avoid the fielder who is waiting on a thrown ball, he gets an interference call. Craig barreled over WMB, essentially making HIM the recipient of the interference call.

[TedWilliams101]

7.09 (J): He fails to avoid a fielder who is attempting to field a batted ball, or intentionally interferes with a thrown bal

 

That's for a fielder in the act of fielding with the runner interfering the play. That's not what happened. The play (throw from salty) was over, Craig didn't interfere with that. I'm not saying I agree with them making the call. It's like a ticky tacky PI call in the NFL in a pivotal spot. You don't decide a game like that.

 

Yeah, my sig is old... (I should blow it up, f***ing hate Gonzo)

[StealBasesWinGames]

well. I'm goin to turn the page after this joke of a game. tomorrow the cards ******** ends. Weak s***.

[jung]

THERE! They asked him if he raised his legs intentionally. He said no. did they raise up against his will?

 

Will was not in the base path and if you ask me, Craig used Will's body to help him gain his balance and get going toward home plate and he was way inside the base path.

[kapsis21]

Joe TOrre on MLB NEtwork is calling a different rule from the rule book...

[User Name]

That's for a fielder in the act of fielding with the runner interfering the play. That's not what happened. The play (throw from salty) was over, Craig didn't interfere with that. I'm not saying I agree with them making the call. It's like a ticky tacky PI call in the NFL in a pivotal spot. You don't decide a game like that.

 

Yeah, my sig is old... (I should blow it up, f***ing hate Gonzo)

 

No, you are incorrect. Look at the video. Craig's feet hit WMB while the throw is still "field-able".

[BigPapi]

Breslow and Salty are turning into the tony romo's of baseball: making ill advised throws at crucial moments.

[kapsis21]

Breslow was traded for Albers ..we rode him good but i think his time is over. we need to give the ball to Workman

[a700hitter]

Salty is flapping his gums a lot. Maybe he should try saying these words. "The loss is on me. I shouldn't have thrown the ball and I made a terrible throw." Man up you whining wuss.

[BigPapi]

Salty is flapping his gums a lot. Maybe he should try saying these words. "The loss is on me. I shouldn't have thrown the ball and I made a terrible throw." Man up you whining wuss.

 

Absolutely true.

[User Name]

In the end, the loss is on Salty. He should have never made that throw. Second game in a row his idiocy costs the Sox a game.

[yankees228]

UN? is going down a different road here, which is interesting. After much research I think WMB did interfere with Craig. UN?'s question is, did Craig interfere with WMB first.

[jung]

I really don't understand what Salty is doing unless the coaching staff has been egging him on all year "keep throwing it salty, we like that kind of aggressive play. Frankly I doubt it cause he has been throwing the ball into LF all season long and anybody will brains would be trying to dissuade him from cutting it loose unless he had the runner dead to rights...Why???? Cause his throw suck, especially to 3rd.

[BigPapi]

Agreed. Even that throw to try to get kolten wong from stealing second was pure s***.

[yeszir]

100% on Salty. That's a 50/50 call at third that doesn't get made unless Salty throws it into left.

[User Name]

The MLB better f***ing hope we don't lose in 7 and this call wins the game and the Cards the series

[jung]

UN? is going down a different road here, which is interesting. After much research I think WMB did interfere with Craig. UN?'s question is, did Craig interfere with WMB first.

 

And that is why I posted what I posted. I think Craig was inside the baseline and used Will's body to help him regain his balance giving him some momentum toward home plate...one of the worse calls I have ever seen. Does not absolve Salty from throwing the thing. Much like in boxing...you leave critical decisions in the hands of the officials and you are just asking for it.

[StealBasesWinGames]

Yeah, we are certainly beating ourselves with some of these plays/decisions more so than the cardinals beating us. Mistakes stop after tonight and we play crisp for the for the rest of the series. They are the cardinals this is what they rely on.. teams shooting themselves in the foot. We better play a solid game and pummel these fools tomorrow. Go get em' Bucholz. Any roster changes you see tomorrow? Salty? Drew?

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Salty is flapping his gums a lot. Maybe he should try saying these words. "The loss is on me. I shouldn't have thrown the ball and I made a terrible throw." Man up you whining wuss.

Oh god, probably a good thing I'm not watching this.

[yankees228]

And that is why I posted what I posted. I think Craig was inside the baseline and used Will's body to help him regain his balance giving him some momentum toward home plate...one of the worse calls I have ever seen. Does not absolve Salty from throwing the thing. Much like in boxing...you leave critical decisions in the hands of the officials and you are just asking for it.

 

Well it doesn't matter whether or not Craig was inside the chalk. Baseline is a straight line from wherever the runner starts to the next base -- so WMB claiming that he wasn't in the baseline isn't really true.

[yeszir]

I mean, it does look like WMB lifted his legs and that ended up slowing the runner down. Difficult to argue intent but the runner probably scores without that trip up.