8/5 vs Houston

[SoxFanForsyth]

Waaaaah, season over. Man, you guys are a bunch of cry babies. It's one game. Get over it.

 

Yes. Nobody is allowed to be emotional or upset about losing to a .333 W% team. Lets all hold hands and look at the rainbows.

[VA Sox Fan]

Why do you have a book about serial killers in ur room? umm, what...

 

J/K, I can't blame you, I'm a big fan of Jeffrey Dahmer myself.

 

How did you guys miss commenting on this fine post? Too busy whining I suppose. ;)

[a700hitter]

You can't win them all. Lackey has been our best and most consistent starting pitcher this season. He has not been getting much run support lately. Doubront has been our second most consistent starter.

 

The Astro pitcher on Monday. Is he their highest rated pitching prospect. They have a couple of promising young arms in their rotation.

Edited August 6, 2013 by a700hitter
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[VA Sox Fan]

Yes. Nobody is allowed to be emotional or upset about losing to a .333 W% team. Lets all hold hands and look at the rainbows.

 

It does suck. But we're going to lose to crappy teams from time to time.

[Palodios]

You can't won them all. Lackey has been our best and most consistent starting pitcher this season. He has not been getting much run support lately. Doubront has been our second most consistent starter.

 

The Astro pitcher on Monday. Is he their highest rated pitching prospect. They have a couple of promising young arms in their rotation.

 

He was their #20 prospect after 2012, actually.

[Bellhorn04]

He was their #20 prospect after 2012, actually.

 

Looks like he was underrated then, after blanking the Birds and us for 7 innings apiece.

 

Houston has been winning 1 out of 3. We have to keep it that way.

[Bellhorn04]

Yes. Nobody is allowed to be emotional or upset about losing to a .333 W% team. Lets all hold hands and look at the rainbows.

 

This is exactly why I steer away from game threads. It sucks to lose to Houston but I see nothing to be gained by pouring out my frustration for others to read.

 

Houston has won at least one game against every team they've played this year except for 0-3 vs. Minnesota.

 

2-4 vs. Baltimore

1-2 vs. NYY

2-5 vs. Tampa

1-4 vs. Red Sox

[a700hitter]

He was their #20 prospect after 2012, actually.

I was unfamiliar with him. It just goes to show how the fortunes of prospects can change from year to year. As fans, we want to keep our highly rated prospects, but their rankings can change so much from year to year depending on their development. The rankings mean very little. They are just snapshots of an organization and frequently organizations are completely wrong about the ceilings for their players.

[MJantomaso]

I wonder what the opposing teams era is when Lackey pitches this season?

[Palodios]

i wonder what the opposing teams era is when lackey pitches this season?

 

3.50 era.

[mvp 78]

Yes. Nobody is allowed to be emotional or upset about losing to a .333 W% team. Lets all hold hands and look at the rainbows.

 

No, let's all expect to go 162 - 0 and be pissy after each loss.

[redsoxfan3]

Obviously it blows to get shut out by the worst team in baseball. July 31st, the Astros beat the Orioles 11-0. The Astros also held the Rays to 1 run twice in July, with the Astros winning both times. The Astros are a horrible team, but we cannot win every game. There is no way to justify getting shut out by the Astros, but it is baseball, and it happens. It is a 162 game season. Even the Astros win games.

 

As of right now, I just keep telling myself that we have to win the last two games of the series. I am not going to hit the panic button because of one game, although I completely understand everyone's frustration, because last night, I was extremely pissed off watching us swing the bat. We were 0 for 7 with runners in scoring position and left 8 on base. As of right now, there is no player more frustrating to watch than Napoli. He left 6 men on base last night. He has struck out 20 more times than Adam Dunn this year, and Adam Dunn has played in two more games.

[mvp 78]

Says MVP, in his first post of the gamethread.

 

The GTs have been getting worse and worse. What's the point of posting in them if it's just a whine fest?

[jung]

I think in part, Wright is getting this start because this rotation is far from set. Right at this very moment not including newcomer Peavy, the most reliable guy in the rotation is Felix. The only reason Felix did not start the season as the rotation 5 is because the position defaulted to Lackey, just back off injury. Not real inspiring when the guy who for all intents was your 4 or 5 is now the most reliable guy you have out of the guys that started the season with you.

 

Lester continues his up and down s***, thankfully more up than down recently but is far from awe inspiring. Buch is well Buch, Mr. On the Shelf and Dempster has taken a turn for the worse. That is not very encouraging even without adding in the potential for additional injury.

 

The Sox already know what they have in Workman. You can easily convince yourself that down the stretch the Sox will need Workman + another starter just to get to the finish line. Lackey is no spring chicken for example. A little more turn on that ankle last night and.....crack....."hey does anybody know if Wright can start up here?"

[SoxFanForsyth]

No, let's all expect to go 162 - 0 and be pissy after each loss.

 

GT is for short term, emotional responses.

 

If you want long term, big picture, look at non game threads.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I think in part, Wright is getting this start because this rotation is far from set. Right at this very moment not including newcomer Peavy, the most reliable guy in the rotation is Felix. The only reason Felix did not start the season as the rotation 5 is because the position defaulted to Lackey, just back off injury. Not real inspiring when the guy who for all intents was your 4 or 5 is now the most reliable guy you have out of the guys that started the season with you.

 

Lester continues his up and down s***, thankfully more up than down recently but is far from awe inspiring. Buch is well Buch, Mr. On the Shelf and Dempster has taken a turn for the worse. That is not very encouraging even without adding in the potential for additional injury.

 

The Sox already know what they have in Workman. You can easily convince yourself that down the stretch the Sox will need Workman + another starter just to get to the finish line. Lackey is no spring chicken for example. A little more turn on that ankle last night and.....crack....."hey does anybody know if Wright can start up here?"

 

You act as though the fact that Doubront is the most reliable is a bad thing.

 

Doubront has a 2.55 ERA over his last 15 starts, covering 92 IP. That's outstanding. It doesn't matter where the production is coming from, so long as you get the production.

 

The Red Sox SP are 3rd in the AL with a 3.83 ERA. That's pretty damn outstanding. The Rays have a 3.78 ERA, for comparative purposes.

[Palodios]

The GTs have been getting worse and worse. What's the point of posting in them if it's just a whine fest?

 

What's the point in reading them if you don't want to read them?

 

Game threads have been the best this year of any year that I've been here. If you haven't figured out what these kinds of threads are like by now, I don't know what to tell you.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Waaaaah, season over. Man, you guys are a bunch of cry babies. It's one game. Get over it.

 

I think as fans, we have the right to be upset when our team does bad. That doesn't make us a crybaby. It is one game and I am over it, that post was made yesterday. You know, when the game was actually relevant?

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

What's the point in reading them if you don't want to read them?

 

Game threads have been the best this year of any year that I've been here. If you haven't figured out what these kinds of threads are like by now, I don't know what to tell you.

 

I agree that the GT have been good this year. Aside from stupid fighting and Jacko trolling, it's been great. Although Jacko probably won't be trolling until next season. I don't understand this concept here. Lots of people aren't happy with the GT. It's real simple, you don't post or read them. What good comes out of calling out posters for being upset about losing to the Astros? It's nearly impossible to please everyone here.

[Bellhorn04]

I agree that the GT have been good this year. Aside from stupid fighting and Jacko trolling, it's been great. Although Jacko probably won't be trolling until next season. I don't understand this concept here. Lots of people aren't happy with the GT. It's real simple, you don't post or read them. What good comes out of calling out posters for being upset about losing to the Astros? It's nearly impossible to please everyone here.

 

Everybody's different, that's for sure.

 

If people want to be upset and say it's shameful and embarrassing etc. to lose to the Astros, they have the perfect right. I disagree that losing one game to the Astros is shameful and I pointed out that other teams are losing games to them too. It's more like the law of averages taking effect.

[jung]

Much of the current data compiled for the rotation stats include Buch's first two months, Lester's first half and Dempster's first half for that matter. Is Lester the pitcher he was early in the season now? Is Buch even pitching now? Is Dempster the pitcher he was in the first half? I would answer No to all those questions. As such, I think it is wise for the Sox to plan for the possibility that they will need more rotation arms even if just for the possibility of injury, barely avoided last night I might add.

 

The total 2013 stats compiled by the Sox rotation to this date, does not change the reality of being close enough to needing additional rotation arms to want to give themselves the opportunity to see Wright start up here after having seen what he was able to accomplish in relief all-be-it against only one team. The Sox do not have much time here.

 

I would rather see Wright against Houston in this situation than against some of the other teams they are facing on the road. It is not the Sox brain trust's fault that they did not have a crystal ball telling them that the team would come out and lay a total egg in game 1 of the Houston series and that is in part what this is about anyway.

 

Frankly, that it did not take much for Houston pitchers to totally dismantle this offense is more a concern to me than Wright starting tonights game.

[mvp 78]

If you guys need cream for your diaper rashes, let me know. I think they are having a sale at diapers.com all this week.

[Bellhorn04]

Frankly, that it did not take much for Houston pitchers to totally dismantle this offense is more a concern to me than Wright starting tonights game.

 

As has already been pointed out, with the same guy on the hill 5 days earlier Houston shut out the Orioles. It means little. It's just the same 'surprising' s*** that happens in baseball over and over again.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

If you guys need cream for your diaper rashes, let me know. I think they are having a sale at diapers.com all this week.

 

Takes less time to open this thread, than type up a smart ass response. Just for future references.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Much of the current data compiled for the rotation stats include Buch's first two months, Lester's first half and Dempster's first half for that matter. Is Lester the pitcher he was early in the season now? Is Buch even pitching now? Is Dempster the pitcher he was in the first half? I would answer No to all those questions. As such, I think it is wise for the Sox to plan for the possibility that they will need more rotation arms even if just for the possibility of injury, barely avoided last night I might add.

 

The total 2013 stats compiled by the Sox rotation to this date, does not change the reality of being close enough to needing additional rotation arms to want to give themselves the opportunity to see Wright start up here after having seen what he was able to accomplish in relief all-be-it against only one team. The Sox do not have much time here.

 

I would rather see Wright against Houston in this situation than against some of the other teams they are facing on the road. It is not the Sox brain trust's fault that they did not have a crystal ball telling them that the team would come out and lay a total egg in game 1 of the Houston series and that is in part what this is about anyway.

 

Frankly, that it did not take much for Houston pitchers to totally dismantle this offense is more a concern to me than Wright starting tonights game.

 

Ok.

 

The Red Sox had a 3.67 ERA in July, in which Lester and Dempster both had tough starts, Buch wasn't even around, and Workman took 3 starts.

 

Right now, Buch is scheduled to throw off a mound, Workman has shown that he is going to be able to fill in very well, and we acquired Peavy. That's 7 strong starting pitchers right there, once Buch gets back, and 6 even until he doesn't. Even if Lackey went down last night, that still gives them a rotation of Peavy - Doubront - Lester - Workman - Dempster. And that's still a very solid rotation.

[SoxFanForsyth]

If you guys need cream for your diaper rashes, let me know. I think they are having a sale at diapers.com all this week.

 

zing.

[jung]

I don't know how reliable Dempster is at this point. I don't think I am the only one that has taken something of a "when we see it we will believe it" attitude regarding Buch. In fact I think that is where the Sox brain trust is right now. Hence, I still think it wise for the Sox to look at Wright in a starting role. You guys don't think so...fine by me. I do.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I don't know how reliable Dempster is at this point. I don't think I am the only one that has taken something of a "when we see it we will believe it" attitude regarding Buch. In fact I think that is where the Sox brain trust is right now. Hence, I still think it wise for the Sox to look at Wright in a starting role. You guys don't think so...fine by me. I do.

 

I would much, much, much rather see the Sox continue to look at Workman, who has been nothing short of outstanding (2.45 ERA in his 3 starts) and has done absolutely nothing to encourage a look at Wright over him.

[jung]

I would much, much, much rather see the Sox continue to look at Workman, who has been nothing short of outstanding (2.45 ERA in his 3 starts) and has done absolutely nothing to encourage a look at Wright over him.

 

Your behind by a few posts with that argument. They already know what they have in Workman. At least I think so. You guys act like starting Wright is conceding the game. Where is it written that starting Wright automatically equals a lost game. In the first place, I don't think the Sox will come out and lay two eggs in a row like that. But if they did, I don't give a rats ass, what Houston did to or for or about the O's or anybody else that is not the Red Sox. I would be concerned about seeing that offense shut down two in a row by the lowly Astros.

[Bellhorn04]

I would much, much, much rather see the Sox continue to look at Workman, who has been nothing short of outstanding (2.45 ERA in his 3 starts) and has done absolutely nothing to encourage a look at Wright over him.

 

We don't know the exact reasoning behind the decision. Maybe Workman's innings limit for this year precludes him from being a starter the rest of the way.