5/18 @ Target Field

[Station 13]

breakout alert: Daniel Nava. This kid can hit.

 

He's a good guy in the 2-hole with a knack for seeing many pitches, patient and wait for a pitch to drive.

[BigPapi]

Very quietly, alex wilson has been having a very nice season so far. Although he hasn't pitched in many pressure situations, he has a 1.35 era with only allowing 2 total earned runs. Last inning he was absolutely painting on the outside of the plate and getting those pitches called strikes.

[bill29]

Ellsbury continues to just do jack with pitches down the middle.

 

Barely above 300 OBP for a lead off hitter. Meh. Mediocre.

[jung]

I think there is something to comments some made about Nava battling a nagging wrist injury last year. Whatever he has done..gotten healthy, put on some added muscle mass....just reached a physical peak however late I don't ever recall his bat speed being as good as it appears to be this year. He has always been a very good ballplayer.....knows how to play the game...always a little shy of physical ability. He is still kinda' slow in the outfield. His bat speed seems way better than I have ever seen it on a consistent basis.

[Station 13]

Hey Look the scorer listen how I was displeased last night with his/her ruling and will award win to the most deserved pitcher.

[Thunder]

Just got home from a long night. Papi with 2 HR's? Wow. Go Sox! My prediction was 11-4, that won't be far off.

[Thunder]

Run Forrest Run!! Papi was motoring.

[bill29]

Make that TWO RBI's.

[Bellhorn04]

Very quietly, alex wilson has been having a very nice season so far. Although he hasn't pitched in many pressure situations, he has a 1.35 era with only allowing 2 total earned runs. Last inning he was absolutely painting on the outside of the plate and getting those pitches called strikes.

 

Yeah, he's doing well. Much needed.

[Thunder]

Make that TWO RBI's.

 

Welcome to Talksox??? :dunno:

[italstallianion]

Very quietly, alex wilson has been having a very nice season so far. Although he hasn't pitched in many pressure situations, he has a 1.35 era with only allowing 2 total earned runs. Last inning he was absolutely painting on the outside of the plate and getting those pitches called strikes.

 

 

His WHIP is higher than his ERA, which for some reason weirds me out everytime I see his stats.

[Station 13]

His WHIP is higher than his ERA, which for some reason weirds me out everytime I see his stats.

 

he needs to cut down the walks. He could transition into a 6th inning reliever.

[bill29]

Welcome to Talksox??? :dunno:

 

LOL! Thanks. Fun place to be while watching the game

[Thunder]

he needs to cut down the walks. He could transition into a 6th inning reliever.

 

Which we would need on nights that Doubront and Dempster pitch.

[Standing Room]

WATER!

[Thunder]

LOL! Thanks. Fun place to be while watching the game

 

Just be conscious of our superstitions here and you'll fit right in. I learned the hard way. Made a game thread after a win.

[Station 13]

Winning pitcher Breslow, not Mortensen. Andrew Miller need to appeal last night's ruling.

[BigPapi]

His WHIP is higher than his ERA, which for some reason weirds me out everytime I see his stats.

 

 

 

I agree. That is weird. He's just been very good this year at not allowing the other teams to string a lot of base hits against him to not allow runs to score.

[italstallianion]

Winning pitcher Breslow, not Mortensen. Andrew Miller need to appeal last night's ruling.

 

 

I don't get it. Dempster obviously didn't get the win because he went less than 5 innings, but since the Sox never trailed, it should go to the pitcher that came in afterward, which would be Mortenson.

 

I remember you saying something about the scorer having discretion in choosing who wins based off of which reliever did the best (ie your comment about Miller getting last night's win instead of Wilson)

 

If only the scorer had the same discretion for losses.

[italstallianion]

I looked it up and we had both exceptions to the rule tonight, the starter not making it 5 innings and the scorer giving the win to the reliever that pitched the most effectively. (While Miller did the best yesterday, Wilson got an out on 2 pitches so it's not like he was ineffective like Mortenson was today, although Mortenson didn't allow a run (thanks to Breslow) so I wouldn't have been upset it Mortenson got the win.

 

 

In Major League Baseball, the winning pitcher is defined as the pitcher who last pitched prior to the half-inning when the winning team took the lead for the last time.

 

There are two exceptions to this rule. The more common exception is that a starting pitcher must complete five innings to earn a win (four innings for a game that lasted five innings on defense). If the starting pitcher fails to meet the innings requirement, the official scorer awards the win to the relief pitcher who, in the official scorer's judgment, was the most effective.

 

The second exception applies only to a relief pitcher who makes a "brief appearance" and is himself later relieved. If, in the official scorer's judgment, the relief pitcher was "ineffective", the win is awarded to the succeeding relief pitcher who was most effective, in the official scorer's judgment.[1]

 

In the Major League Baseball All-Star Game, every pitcher is considered a relief pitcher for the purposes of this rule. For example, starting pitcher Matt Cain was awarded the win in the 2012 All-Star Game despite throwing only two innings.[2]

[bill29]

Just be conscious of our superstitions here and you'll fit right in. I learned the hard way. Made a game thread after a win.

 

Will do. Feel free to smack me down if I overstep some unknown line. Nothing worse than erring in ignorance.

[bill29]

Last time Bruins played after Sox win, Bruins followed suit in epic fashion. Hope the trend continues tomorrow.

[italstallianion]

Will do. Feel free to smack me down if I overstep some unknown line. Nothing worse than erring in ignorance.

 

Just don't make a gamethread unless the team loses the night before and you haven't made one in a while (assuming nobody has made one already). When the Sox win the person who made the gamethread keeps the mojo going.

 

Just learn that rule and you should be fine. The rest you'll pick up along the way.

[RedSoxNC84]

Dempster's ERA is now in the 4's, where everyone expected it to be.. It looks like his strikeouts have fallen off a cliff since April.

[RedSoxNC84]

Also the team RISP was 5 for 10 tonight, much better than it has been recently.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Now this is what I'd like to come home to after work. Very nice win, will watch the game in a little bit.

 

Twins got smacked around, that's payback for Fenway. Do it again tomorrow.

[SoxSport]

Pitching has changed a lot in the era of saves and pitch counts. But who gets the win hasn't changed despite the changes in the way pitchers are used. The result is wins get shifted to the bullpen instead of the starter. That's why wins are no longer considered a prime stat for the Cy Young--or even the HOF. A starter often has 3 or 4 pitchers replacing him in a game these days, and the score has a good chance of changing a few times, taking him out as the pitcher of record. In fact, a closer who blows a save frequently gets credit for the win if his team comes back next time up to get ahead. The changes in pitching regimen call for a change in the rules about who gets a win. Baseball has been typically behind the eight ball on this.